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Question 3:   I'm looking for info about how well the ballast stands up if its hull fiberglass covering has been damaged. My question is should this be disqualifying in considering a purchase?

The Pearson 424 and 422 have the same hull with a lead keel incased in fiberglass. At the aft end of the keel the fiberglass is about 3/4 inch thick. Above that is a deep sump. That is considered the weakness in the boat.

Some answers from our owners:
If properly repaired, there is no reason that the keel should not be as strong, if not stronger than the original lay-up. There are many articles out there on repairing exactly this kind of damage. I can't find a link to one, but briefly:
The damaged area must be ground down to expose a clean rough surface. The ballast must be allowed to drain. A repair is done in layers with a large overlap over the exposed good surface.
I suggest contacting a reputable surveyor. If the boat 18 July, 2005e surveyor to inspect the repair as it is made. Your offer should reflect the estimated cost of repair. I suspect the seller already made this adjustment.
Rich


I have had several on several occasions run a ground. Although requiring some major work the damage never put the vessel in real danger. The yard I used (both times) has a real "expert" at glass repair and he never indicated any special concerns. In fact he was in the process of restoring a Pearson for his own use.
Cada Grove I had the misfortune of smacking a coral head in Bermuda while doing about 6 knots. The impact was sufficient to lift the boat up a foot and set it on top of the coral. Ross Perot pulled me off, but that's another story! Inspection after the fact revealed a ding in the gel coat about the size of a quarter on the leading edge of the keel about 1/3 of the way up and some superficial scratches. No significant damages and no consequent ill effects, and that was about 9 years ago. Despite some adverse comments by a surveyor who looked at Ed Engle's boat, I have had no adverse experience with either keel or ballast in 15 years of ownership of a 1978 model.
Regards,
Hal Sutphen


First, the 'bilge box' you describe - the sump aft of the ballast keel - can be a weak area in many boats as the hull was laid up in two parts (just like a plastic airplane model) and then mated by laminating across the two halves. E.g. Bristols have a high reputation but are also known for this area to be weak & I've known 2 Bristol 40s that had to have the keel area of their bilge box repaired after grounding on sand (no immediate damange) and surge & wave action pounding the boat enough to pop this section, which has no internal reinforcement. Typically, this occurs when either the inner or outer 'joining' laminate was omitted by the builder. (We would probably grow weak in the knees to watch most boats being built, especially our own!) The repair is straightforward and, yes, I've known owners of several different designs lay up additional glass in this area despite having no detectable problem. We have at least one 424 member who poured a large amount of concrete into their bilge box, in part to reinforce it and also to make the bottom of the bilge more reachable.
Jack Tyler
Aboard WHOOSH, currently lying San Juan, PR


My own 424 was very badly damaged during a storm before I bought her. She ended up on the rocks and lost her keel and rudder. She was only three years old at the time. The boat was purchased as salvage by a local boat yard and restored. The yard did a great job reglassing her. I had the boat surveyed by a reputable surveyor before I made an offer. I've since had her offshore in rough conditions with no problem. I suppose that the bottom line here is that it is possible to properly repair damage such as you described, but be very careful. Have a proper survey done.
Rich
Black Sheep


After I heard this the first time around, I checked in with Bill Shaw (Pearson designer/chief engineer) and asked him about this "weak spot." He said the glass on the bottom of the keel is at least an inch-and-a-half thick, since it's in fact doubled over (as Jack described). Bill did not think the bottom of the keel was a weak spot at all -- and anyone who's ever spoken with him knows he's a very cautious person. So we decided not to worry about reinforcing that area (although paranoia may yet bring us to it). BTW, we've grounded the boat more often than I'd like to admit, including one fairly hard grounding on gravel, and have not had a problem.
Jane C.
S/V Far Horizon, lying somewhere on the Indian River, FL