[pearson424] Holding Tanks - v berth tank conversion?
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Pete Dubler
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Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 5:07 PM
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Has anyone converted their v-berth water tank to a holding tank?
Other good holding tank ideas? My boat (shhh) does not have a holding
tank, just the electro-san. (let's not get into a big dialog on
discharge laws and their sensibility please...) and I'd like to add one.
Thanks,
Pete
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| dkimmel |
Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 5:54 PM
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The best spot unless you wish to put your batteries there instead is just
aft of the mast. There is a ton of space under the cabin sole. If I remember
correctly we have a 60 gal holding tank in that spot.
David
Harmony
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Pete Dubler
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Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 6:40 PM
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How the heck to you get a 60 gallon tank INTO that space on a finished
boat? I measured the opening of the bilge access panel and it is only
about 12" wide.
Thanks,
Pete
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David Kimmel
<dkimmel@sanctum.com>
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Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 8:02 PM
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Pete Dubler
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Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 8:42 PM
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Wow! That was quite the project!
Pete
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| Lee Thurner |
Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 9:19 PM
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Pete,
I have a 28-gallon tank that lives under the sole aft of the mast. It
slid into the access hole in the sole next to the companionway. I'd
sure like to have a bigger tank like Dave Kimmel has...but don't want to
take the sole and floor supports out to do it.
Lee
Meridian, Hull no. 139
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| David Kimmel |
Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 10:34 PM
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What can I say my crew has a small bladder.. :)
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| James Roberts |
Mon, Mar 6, 2006 at 10:54 PM
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We had a ships carpenter make another hatch in the floor forward of the mast and installed a flexible holding tank of approximately 35 gallons. We haven't used it yet since we are in an area with no pump-outs. Venezuela. Jim Roberts Cutter no.219 1983
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| Piescik, Walter |
Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 10:38 AM
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I found a white poly tank that holds over 20 gallons, and will fit
through the existing access in the cabin sole.
It does not exploit all of the space in there, and 20 gallons is barely
enough if you have guests, but it does the job without having to take on
the cabin sole job.
With a tank monitor to keep tabs on the level, a Y valve for dumping
while in transit, and the prevalence of pump out boats around southern
New England, it works for me.
If you like, I can get the dimensions.
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dave jones
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Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 10:58 AM
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Pete,
We were able to fit a 30 gallon tank through the existing
access by
removing the framing members around it. It was really
close and my
brother (small guy) has refused to work on the boat since
we sent him
down the hole to install the hold downs. I can get
you the dimensions
if you wish.
Website: www.krakor.com
Dave
[Editor's note: (since
this is my boat we're talking about )
We think this is item #2132, pg 10 of http://www.krakor.com/support/holdingtanks.pdf
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Thatcher Stone
<tastone@verizon.net>
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Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 11:41 AM
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For what its worth, I had a holding tank with a macerator pump installed
below my cabin sole too, and found the custom installation to be very easy
to access and use. I never would have believed it. Two winters ago at Point
Judith Marina, RI.
Thatcher A. Stone
WAVEMAKER
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BJN99
<bjn99@rcn.com>
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Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 12:36 PM
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I would like the dimensions Walter, I plan on doing that project this year.
S/V Topaz
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Carter, Richard
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Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 12:58 PM
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My boat originally was built with a holding thank in the main cabin
hanging locker. I assume they were all built that way. The original
owner installed a LectraSan MSD in the bilge just forward of the keel
sump. I wanted the space for battery storage, so I moved the device to
the bottom of the dry locker next to the head. This proved to be a
better location because the hoses are shorter. I like the MSD because it
avoids storage of waste, but it is a maintenance problem. With age, the
seals can fail. Waste liquid can leak past the motor seals into the
motor. I've been able to replace the seals and nurse the motors with PB
blaster, but I'm probably going to have to either replace the thing,
install a holding tank, or both ($$). More and more of the local
harbors and anchorages are being legislated as zero discharge zones, so
the first option is probably not going to work. It is my opinion that
this is being done out of ignorance, but you can't fight city-hall.
I favor keeping the discharge hoses as short as possible, so I'll likely
install a small holding tank in the back of the hanging locker where it
was originally. Short hoses will help keep the odor down. I'll either
rebuild the lectraSan again or replace it. I'll install a Y-valve and
mascerator pump too with appropriate lockouts to keep the installation
legal. None of this will probably happen this season because I'm tied
up repowering.
Rich Carter
603-897-2071
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Philippe Fontaine
<p.p.fontaine@cox.net>
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Tue, Mar 7, 2006 at 4:59 PM
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I have a 40 gallon flexible tank that was installed through the same hatch
described in Lee's message,
Phil Fontaine
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Piescik, Walter
<Walter.Piescik@fmr.com>
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Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 9:56 AM
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Will do. I won't be down there for a week or two, but I will get them.
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Ron Repp
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Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 10:17 AM
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Does anyone have any experience with flexible ( "rubber bag" ) waste holding
tanks? I have one that is approx. 35 gallons and sits on the keel ballast
under the cabin sole. It has provided excellent service over 25 years and I
am thinking about replacing it with another bag. Ron Repp MELANGE #54
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Pete Dubler
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Wed, Mar 8, 2006 at 12:15 PM
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My little experience is as such: I had one in the boat when I bought
it. The first time I touched it, the fitting came out and the s**t hit
the bilge... That unit went into the nearest dumpster and I have been
without a holding tank since...
Pete
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