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    • #66992
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      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69840
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      Yup, and boy do I have some stories…

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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    • #69841
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      and when do we get to hear them? Anything we should
      know about?
      alan

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      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P
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    • #69842
      Anonymous

      My mast pulpits are still lying on deck, waiting, because I’m preoccupied with my forepit project at present. Would love to hear your tales of challenges overcome.

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    • #69845
      madsailor
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      Hi Alan,

      I'll be putting it up on my blog (http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com) and will write here, too – but I have to figure out how to shrink images for the 424 site.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:50 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      and when do we get to hear them? Anything we should
      know about?
      alan

      — Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Yup, and boy do I have some stories…

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P
      < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69847
      Anonymous

      Robert,

      I just checked out your blog, It’s great, I dunno how I missed that before.

      I have some questions! 🙂

      When you installed the new winches, I take it that you left the old ones in place? Have you sailed with them yet? If so where’d you mount blocks?

      You mentioned installing your VHF, did you also put a hailer horn on the mast? Is it protected from the foresail with a radar antenna, or something else? I’m definitely anxious to see the pulpits!

      On 5/12/08 7:47 AM, Robert Fine wrote :

      Hi Alan,

      I’ll be putting it up on my blog (http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com) and will write here, too – but I have to figure out how to shrink images for the 424 site.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:50 AM, alan P <> wrote:

      and when do we get to hear them? Anything we should
      know about?
      alan

      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Yup, and boy do I have some stories…

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P
      <> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69850
      madsailor
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      Hi Aaron,

      Thanks for the nice words – I've been so busy with the boat that I've not kept it up.

      I did, indeed, leave the old winches for several reasons – one, I may get a spinnaker, and two, I the big winches are good for kedging where the anchor windlass is not.

      I set the new winches as far outboard as I could, as close to the rigging as I could and still operate the 10″ handles comfortably and so I could sit on the coaming when sailing. The only one that needed a turning block is the port one and like Tor on Silver Heels, it was a simple cheek block mounted just aft of the mizzen stay. I also added a rubstrake on the angle of the coaming to keep the line from rubbing through the gelcoat.

      The starboard side doesn't need a block because the line wraps outboard.

      I struggled with the idea of putting one on both sides for symmetry, but didn't. It would be expensive symmetry.

      The hailer is sitting on my aft bunk. It will go on my mizzen below the radar. The TV antenna will go above the radar. The new radio has a remote mic on the sternrail. Very easy to use.

      Here's what I learned with the pulpits:

      1. Measure, measure, measure. Then measure again – I set the first hole the same by measuring from the mast and all the stays, then marked the same place on the other side. It will be close. I also moved mine aft so that they are even with the mast because I want to use my staysail without flogging it on the mast rails.

      2. Patience is a virtue. Really. Don't use 5 minute epoxy. Devcon makes a really cool 2500# epoxy with injector that automatically mixes it as it's injected. True, you need a mess of them, but the convenience was amazing. But they take 30 minutes to set. Wait the 30 minutes. Really.

      3. When you put the 4200UV to bed the rails don't try to clean it up. Wait till it cures. Much easier.

      Other than that, it's all good. I'll be posting the winch pictures and the rail pictures right soon.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Robert,

      I just checked out your blog, It’s great, I dunno how I missed that before.

      I have some questions! 🙂

      When you installed the new winches, I take it that you left the old ones in place? Have you sailed with them yet? If so where’d you mount blocks?

      You mentioned installing your VHF, did you also put a hailer horn on the mast? Is it protected from the foresail with a radar antenna, or something else? I’m definitely anxious to see the pulpits!

      On 5/12/08 7:47 AM, Robert Fine wrote :

      Hi Alan,

      I'll be putting it up on my blog (http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com) and will write here, too – but I have to figure out how to shrink images for the 424 site.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:50 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      and when do we get to hear them? Anything we should
      know about?
      alan

      — Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Yup, and boy do I have some stories…

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P
      < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69851
      rdugger
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      I took one down to the boat and placed it on deck. Actual installation will be a winter project. It appears that I will need to place a 1/2″ to 5/8″ block under the outboard leg to make everything fit. Bob did you need to do this or did they fit the curvature of the deck OK?

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:18 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69852
      Anonymous

      Thanks for the info.

      One other question I forgot to ask, you mention getting a bunch of licenses and that they enable you to shop at a PX.

      Which license does that, and can you show me where it says that? I’ve passed the test for OUPV and am currently studying for masters and tow. It would be great if a merchant marine license got me on base to buy stuff cheap. (plus it’s fun to look around military bases once in a while, it’s just very rare that I’ve been sponsored to be on one (twice in 20 years).

      On 5/12/08 5:36 PM, Robert Fine wrote :

      Hi Aaron,

      Thanks for the nice words – I’ve been so busy with the boat that I’ve not kept it up.

      I did, indeed, leave the old winches for several reasons – one, I may get a spinnaker, and two, I the big winches are good for kedging where the anchor windlass is not.

      I set the new winches as far outboard as I could, as close to the rigging as I could and still operate the 10″ handles comfortably and so I could sit on the coaming when sailing. The only one that needed a turning block is the port one and like Tor on Silver Heels, it was a simple cheek block mounted just aft of the mizzen stay. I also added a rubstrake on the angle of the coaming to keep the line from rubbing through the gelcoat.

      The starboard side doesn’t need a block because the line wraps outboard.

      I struggled with the idea of putting one on both sides for symmetry, but didn’t. It would be expensive symmetry.

      The hailer is sitting on my aft bunk. It will go on my mizzen below the radar. The TV antenna will go above the radar. The new radio has a remote mic on the sternrail. Very easy to use.

      Here’s what I learned with the pulpits:

      1. Measure, measure, measure. Then measure again – I set the first hole the same by measuring from the mast and all the stays, then marked the same place on the other side. It will be close. I also moved mine aft so that they are even with the mast because I want to use my staysail without flogging it on the mast rails.

      2. Patience is a virtue. Really. Don’t use 5 minute epoxy. Devcon makes a really cool 2500# epoxy with injector that automatically mixes it as it’s injected. True, you need a mess of them, but the convenience was amazing. But they take 30 minutes to set. Wait the 30 minutes. Really.

      3. When you put the 4200UV to bed the rails don’t try to clean it up. Wait till it cures. Much easier.

      Other than that, it’s all good. I’ll be posting the winch pictures and the rail pictures right soon.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Aaron Lynch <> wrote:

      Robert,

      I just checked out your blog, It’s great, I dunno how I missed that before.

      I have some questions! 🙂

      When you installed the new winches, I take it that you left the old ones in place? Have you sailed with them yet? If so where’d you mount blocks?

      You mentioned installing your VHF, did you also put a hailer horn on the mast? Is it protected from the foresail with a radar antenna, or something else? I’m definitely anxious to see the pulpits!

      On 5/12/08 7:47 AM, Robert Fine wrote :

      Hi Alan,

      I’ll be putting it up on my blog (http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com) <http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com%29> and will write here, too – but I have to figure out how to shrink images for the 424 site.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:50 AM, alan P <> wrote:

      and when do we get to hear them? Anything we should
      know about?
      alan

      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Yup, and boy do I have some stories…

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 6:18 AM, alan P
      <> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69854
      madsailor
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      Hi Rick,

      No, they didn't fit exactly, but exactly enough for me.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Rick Dugger < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I took one down to the boat and placed it on deck. Actual installation will be a winter project. It appears that I will need to place a 1/2″ to 5/8″ block under the outboard leg to make everything fit. Bob did you need to do this or did they fit the curvature of the deck OK?

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:18 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69855
      madsailor
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      Hi Aaron,

      The only license additionally I have is my MMD card – I'm an OS or Ordinary Seaman – but still. I'm going to go to Lifeboat School and to Firefighting School to get my AB (Able Bodied Seaman) or since I'm an engineer by training and trade, I'll check out the QMED stuff.

      But you can have an OS card for the asking plus $150.

      Bob

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    • #69857
      unabated
      Participant

      I thought this was taken care of with Tor’s Beta
      version.
      alan

      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Hi Rick,

      No, they didn’t fit exactly, but exactly enough for
      me.

      Bob

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Rick Dugger
      <> wrote:

      I took one down to the boat and placed it on deck.

      Actual installation

      will be a winter project. It appears that I will

      need to place a 1/2″ to

      5/8″ block under the outboard leg to make

      everything fit. Bob did you need

      to do this or did they fit the curvature of the

      deck OK?

      On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:18 AM, alan P

      <> wrote:

      Anyone install the mast pulpits yet?

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    • #69858
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      Bob,
      Did you get your TWIC card yet?
      Is it the OS or AB that gets you into the PX?
      alan
      — Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Hi Aaron,

      The only license additionally I have is my MMD card
      – I’m an OS or Ordinary
      Seaman – but still. I’m going to go to Lifeboat
      School and to Firefighting
      School to get my AB (Able Bodied Seaman) or since
      I’m an engineer by
      training and trade, I’ll check out the QMED stuff.

      But you can have an OS card for the asking plus
      $150.

      Bob


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    • #69859
      madsailor
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      Hi,

      No, I have to go get the TWIC – I've pre-registered but need the time to get there. The MMD card without any further training is for the OS – you have to go to school and pay a lot for that for the AB.

      Bob

      On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:39 AM, alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Bob,
      Did you get your TWIC card yet?
      Is it the OS or AB that gets you into the PX?
      alan
      — Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Hi Aaron,

      The only license additionally I have is my MMD card
      – I'm an OS or Ordinary
      Seaman – but still. I'm going to go to Lifeboat
      School and to Firefighting
      School to get my AB (Able Bodied Seaman) or since
      I'm an engineer by
      training and trade, I'll check out the QMED stuff.

      But you can have an OS card for the asking plus
      $150.

      Bob


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    • #69864
      RichCarter
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      I read a reference to using the BX. Its not as great a deal as it once was, but I’d sure like to be able to do so again. Does a Master’s license or TWIC card get me in?


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    • #69865
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Rich,

      No, just the MMD card. The Masters is useless for this, and the TWIC will allow you to get onto a commercial pier. The MMD card means you're a Merchant Mariner.

      Bob

      On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Quote:
      I read a reference to using the BX. Its not as great a deal as it once was, but I'd sure like to be able to do so again. Does a Master's license or TWIC card get me in?


      Rich Carter


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    • #69866
      Anonymous

      Rich,

      I’m in the process of finding out if a Merchant Marine Document (MMD card) is considered a valid Military ID Card for the purposes of shopping in a US Military PX. Have emailed a PX manager and am waiting for a reply. Will let you know what he says.

      Back in the ’70’s, when I first got my 100-ton license, a Merchant Marine captain’s license entitled you to free medical treatment in any VA hospital. The reasoning, as I understood it, was that when you got your license you were automatically considered to be available for induction into the US military service in the event of a national emergency. In those days (as now) I was young and healthy and never actually needed to use that perk, although I did once inquire about having a hernia operation at a VA hospital, showing them only a copy of my Merchant Marine license, and they said yes, I could have it done there for free. I’ve never been in the military beyond the Cub Scouts. I don’t think a MM license will get you into a VA hospital any more. Too many yachtsmen/women getting licenses since then, I guess.

      Tor


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    • #69877
      Anonymous

      Free medical would be a helluva perk. I’d be very happy getting on a base at all much less able to go to the px/bx!

      On 5/13/08 7:13 AM, Silver Heels wrote :

      Quote:
      Rich,

      I’m in the process of finding out if a Merchant Marine Document (MMD card) is considered a valid Military ID Card for the purposes of shopping in a US Military PX. Have emailed a PX manager and am waiting for a reply. Will let you know what he says.

      Back in the ’70’s, when I first got my 100-ton license, a Merchant Marine captain’s license entitled you to free medical treatment in any VA hospital. The reasoning, as I understood it, was that when you got your license you were automatically considered to be available for induction into the US military service in the event of a national emergency. In those days (as now) I was young and healthy and never actually needed to use that perk, although I did once inquire about having a hernia operation at a VA hospital, showing them only a copy of my Merchant Marine license, and they said yes, I could have it done there for free. I’ve never been in the military beyond the Cub Scouts. I don’t think a MM license will get you into a VA hospital any more. Too many yachtsmen/women getting licenses since then, I guess.

      Tor


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