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    • #66914
      Anonymous

      Hi Pearson 424 Group

      Planning on rewiring and re-fitting items on mast

      Any tips on:
      Removing old SS screws that don’t want to come out
      Proper drilling/tapping procedures
      Helpful Aids Tuf-Gel, Lanacote, Tap Magic and where to get them
      What to use to prevent corrosion

      Any help will be appreciated

      John MARIPOSA #216 (Cutter) South Haven MI

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    • #69448
      john stevenson
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      John,
      My comments below.

      On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Hi Pearson 424 Group

      Planning on rewiring and re-fitting items on mast

      Any tips on:
      Removing old SS screws that don't want to come out

      I've had success with an impact driver and PBlaster type lubricants/solvents. Sometimes I've had to give it one wack with the impact driver in the tighten direction before starting the other way. When all else fails drill it out. So far I haven't had to do that on this mast.

      Proper drilling/tapping procedures

      A centering punch is handy and a good metal drill bit. It's very easy to let the drill bit walk just enough so that the holes don't line up with whatever fitting you intend to attach to the mast.

      Helpful Aids Tuf-Gel, Lanacote, Tap Magic and where to get them

      I've used Tef-Gel in the past. I forgot where I got it. You used to be able to get it from WM until they started offering their own brand. I think you can find dealers in your area through the USS web-site: http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=tefgel_infor

      What to use to prevent corrosion

      Nothing so far.

      Any help will be appreciated

      John MARIPOSA #216 (Cutter) South Haven MI

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      John Stevenson
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    • #69449
      Anonymous

      If I think a screw looks iffy I will use the impact driver first, before even trying a regular screwdriver. IF it doesn’t come out after PB Blaster and the impact driver, then I’ll heat it with a small butane torch. Usually a few hot/cool cycles will free up anything. (this can wreak havoc on the surrounding paint though)

      I also like to use a dead blow hammer with the impact driver.

      I’ve also read that a product called KROIL works well, but I couldn’t find any locally. PB blaster works well, but makes a mess.

      Lastly, sometimes it takes patience. Coat that sucker in PB 2-3 times a day for a couple days giving it slight taps and heat applications and it will eventually come right out.

      The only other suggestion I have is to use good tools, that are the right size. Nothing strips a screw faster than using a screwdriver with the wrong size head. I have a (as in 1) snap-on screwdriver with interchangeable bits. It was INSANELY expensive, but I have to say that I have never, not once stripped a screw head with it. I also have a few Klein tools and they work nearly as well. When I replace/lose them I will be getting snap-on or mac etc…

      On 4/9/08 10:45 AM, John Stevenson wrote :

      John,
      My comments below.

      On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <> wrote:

      Hi Pearson 424 Group

      Planning on rewiring and re-fitting items on mast

      Any tips on:
      Removing old SS screws that don’t want to come out

      I’ve had success with an impact driver and PBlaster type lubricants/solvents. Sometimes I’ve had to give it one wack with the impact driver in the tighten direction before starting the other way. When all else fails drill it out. So far I haven’t had to do that on this mast.

      Proper drilling/tapping procedures

      A centering punch is handy and a good metal drill bit. It’s very easy to let the drill bit walk just enough so that the holes don’t line up with whatever fitting you intend to attach to the mast.

      Helpful Aids Tuf-Gel, Lanacote, Tap Magic and where to get them

      I’ve used Tef-Gel in the past. I forgot where I got it. You used to be able to get it from WM until they started offering their own brand. I think you can find dealers in your area through the USS web-site: http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=tefgel_infor

      What to use to prevent corrosion

      Nothing so far.

      Any help will be appreciated

      John MARIPOSA #216 (Cutter) South Haven MI

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    • #69451
      unabated
      Participant

      I have a Snap-On impact driver with a 3/8 drive.
      I use a phillips head drive that fits on the impact
      driver. Worth it’s weight in gold, esp. if your
      working on a 424.
      Lots of PB Blaster.
      I read somewhere that you could use a car battery and
      a set of jumper cables. Ground the mast (black -)
      cable and then put the positive (red +) cable on the
      head of the screw. Because it’s “almost” a short
      circuit, the junction between the mast and the screw
      will heat up. That should work…. just don’t hold it
      on there too long…. and careful of the sparks at
      first.
      Two rules of thumb – G-D hates a coward and No balls
      no glory…..
      good luck
      alan

      — John Stevenson <> wrote:

      John,
      My comments below.

      On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <>
      wrote:

      Hi Pearson 424 Group

      Planning on rewiring and re-fitting items on mast

      Any tips on:
      Removing old SS screws that don’t want to come

      out
      I’ve had success with an impact driver and PBlaster
      type
      lubricants/solvents. Sometimes I’ve had to give it
      one wack with the impact
      driver in the tighten direction before starting the
      other way. When all
      else fails drill it out. So far I haven’t had to do
      that on this mast.

      Proper drilling/tapping procedures

      A centering punch is handy and a good metal drill
      bit. It’s very easy to
      let the drill bit walk just enough so that the holes
      don’t line up with
      whatever fitting you intend to attach to the mast.

      Helpful Aids Tuf-Gel, Lanacote, Tap Magic and

      where to get them
      I’ve used Tef-Gel in the past. I forgot where I got
      it. You used to be
      able to get it from WM until they started offering
      their own brand. I think
      you can find dealers in your area through the USS
      web-site:
      http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=tefgel_infor

      What to use to prevent corrosion

      Nothing so far.

      Any help will be appreciated

      John MARIPOSA #216 (Cutter) South Haven MI


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      John Stevenson
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    • #69456
      RLeeds
      Participant

      Another trick I use is a socket wrench with the proper screwdriver type blade on it. This way you can really push down on the top while using the ratchet to turn the impacted screw. This method always worked for me (after a good soaking with PB bLaster

      Rodd Leeds

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    • #69463
      Anonymous

      Hi Rod

      Thanks for the info

      First thing is get a impact wrench

      Any good sources?

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    • #69464
      Anonymous

      Hi Alan

      Thanks for the info

      Where is best place to get impact wrench?

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    • #69465
      Anonymous

      Any tool place, like harbor freight or tool world.

      You can get one made in China for about $20, better quality american made ones are about $50.

      Or snap-on, Mac tools etc are probably a couple hundred.

      On 4/10/08 8:23 AM, wrote :

      Hi Alan

      Thanks for the info

      Where is best place to get impact wrench?

      John Mariposa #216

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    • #69467
      unabated
      Participant

      Sears – Craftsman 25.00
      WARNING —- make sure you use impact rated bits –
      other wise you wil break off the tips of the bits –
      buy GOOD ones THEN if they break – take em back!!

      I once sanded the bottom of a 30ft boat with a
      Craftsmen 4″ DA sander- when the job was done the
      bearings sounded a little loud, so I returned it for a
      new one…. no questions asked….

      http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947641000P?keyword=impact

      — Aaron Lynch <> wrote:

      Any tool place, like harbor freight or tool world.

      You can get one made in China for about $20, better
      quality american made
      ones are about $50.

      Or snap-on, Mac tools etc are probably a couple
      hundred.

      On 4/10/08 8:23 AM, wrote :

      Hi Alan

      Thanks for the info

      Where is best place to get impact wrench?

      John Mariposa #216

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