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April 28, 2008 at 12:21 am #66961
RLeeds
ParticipantNeed to replace my cutlass bearing– I did this once before about 10 years ago. Does anyone have a part number for the 1 1/2″ shaft bearing? Any suggestions on how to get the old one out? Can I use a sawzall to cut the existing bearing or should I stick with a hacksaw? I started with a hacksaw today and had to give up(tired after struggling to get the shaft out–but that was successful.)
Also, is there an estimated life for the cutlass bearing? Is it worn out due to misalignment of the shaft, or do these things just eventually go? Do I need to realign the v-drive to prop shaft when I’m done?
Thanks all!
Maybe I’ll have all th is work done in time for the rendezvous!!
Rodd Leeds
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April 28, 2008 at 11:42 am #69674
Seawater
ParticipantI used a sawzall and cut the cutlass bearing from the inside. I had to cut through the cutlass bearing twice, then peel the section inbetween out. What makes it harder is that the strut has a shoulder at the bottom, and to cut the cutlass bearing completely through, you have to cut the shoulder of the strut too.
I managed to get mine out without cutting the cutlass completely.
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April 28, 2008 at 12:59 pm #69679
RichCarterParticipantRodd
There should be no need to cut anything to remove the cutless bearing. After removing the retaining screw on each side, you push it out with a press. You can make a press using a long piece of threaded rod, a piece of pipe, and a couple of large washers. As you tighten the nut, it pushes the bearing into the pipe.I think you’re supposed to grease the outside of the new bearing when you put it back in. Ask your local prop-shop if this is correct. The helps in disassembly the next time you do this.
The cutless bearing should last several years. Depending on how many hours you run your engine, you should probably get ten or more years, but they do wear out. Alignment should not be an issue given the limited adjustment available on the v-drive mounts. An improperly aligned or bent shaft will accelerate wear.
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April 28, 2008 at 1:25 pm #69682
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ParticipantI have heard that if the boat is used heavily in
shallow and sandy waters – Bahamas…. then the
bearings wear out sooner.
Also, be sure you check the wear on the shaft. Mine
was worn so much that even with a new bearing there
would have still have been play in it.
I ended up replacing the shaft. Orginal shaft was
bronze.
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April 28, 2008 at 1:25 pm #69683
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Rich,
Unfortunately, you can’t use a press on all 424 cutlass bearings. The bearing chamber (or shaft tube) in my boat’s strut wraps around and closes at its forward end like a blunt, hollow-point bullet, leaving only enough of a hole for the shaft to pass through. So you can’t get anything like a washer up against the forward end of the bearing to pull it out. I ultimately had to cut a lengthwise wedge out of the old bearing with a sawzall to loosen it enough so I could tap it out of there. This necessarily left cuts in the chamber’s forward enclosure, but it doesn’t matter. They can be used to guide the sawzall blade next time the old cutlass bearing refuses to budge. In fact, next time I may just slice the forward end off the chamber, making it an open tube that would allow the use of a press.
One little trick I learned from the yard manager here. When I installed the new cutlass bearing, I left about an inch of it sticking out of the rear end of the chamber, enough to grab with a pipe wrench so that I might be able to work it out next time. This also left an inch of space at the bearing’s forward end, so I can at least get a punch up against it through the shaft hole. Hope I don’t have to mess with it for another 10 years, though.
Tor
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April 28, 2008 at 1:25 pm #69680
Seawater
ParticipantI tried the home made press apprach, but could not find/make a washer that would hold up to the forces involved in removing my decades-old bearing. The shoulder in the strut left very little of the bonze sleeve of the cutlass bearing exposed, so I was not able to get a “bite” on the bearing.
I don’t know why they put a shoulder in that strut at all…the set screws are there to keep it in place. But I suppose if the bearing walked out of the back the prop would keep it from coming out completely, but if it walked forward, you would only have a zinc to keep it from coming out.
I was able to press the new one in with the threaded rod.
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April 28, 2008 at 1:32 pm #69685
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ParticipantI was just about to write exactly what Tor wrote,
so I 2nd it.
Be careful when you put the new bearing in that you
have removed ALL… and I do mean ALL marks made by
saw. One little bump and you’ll get the bearing about
2/3’s of the way in and it will get stuck. You will
then need to saw the new bearing out… and start
over…. on 2nd thought, just buy 2 bearings the first
time and save yourself the headache of having to wait
for the 2nd one to arrive….
How do I know this?
alan— Silver Heels <> wrote:
Quote:Rich,Unfortunately, you can’t use a press on all 424
cutlass bearings. The
bearing chamber (or shaft tube) in my boat’s strut
wraps around and closes
at its forward end like a blunt, hollow-point
bullet, leaving only enough of
a hole for the shaft to pass through. So you can’t
get anything like a
washer up against the forward end of the bearing to
pull it out. I
ultimately had to cut a lengthwise wedge out of the
old bearing with a
sawzall to loosen it enough so I could tap it out of
there. This necessarily
left cuts in the chamber’s forward enclosure, but it
doesn’t matter. They
can be used to guide the sawzall blade next time the
old cutlass bearing
refuses to budge. In fact, next time I may just
slice the forward end off
the chamber, making it an open tube that would allow
the use of a press.One little trick I learned from the yard manager
here. When I installed the
new cutlass bearing, I left about an inch of it
sticking out of the rear end
of the chamber, enough to grab with a pipe wrench so
that I might be able to
work it out next time. This also left an inch of
space at the bearing’s
forward end, so I can at least get a punch up
against it through the shaft
hole. Hope I don’t have to mess with it for another
10 years, though.Tor
Silver Heels, P-424 #17
http://www.SilverHeels.us
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May 5, 2008 at 1:31 am #69760
RLeeds
ParticipantSuccess with cutlass removal and reinstall. Not too bad. Used a sawzall to cut through most of way of 2 cuts about a half inch apart. Finished the cuts with a hack saw. Then chiseled out the half inch piece, crushed the bearing and hammered it out.
Going in real easy! Kept the bearing in the freezer overnight to shrink it as much as possible. Brought it to boat in a cooler packed in ice. Removed and dried off bearing, then light machine oil then tapped in using a piece of wood and a small sledge. Went about 3/4 way in with no problem. Then set up the threaded rod with washers and tightend up the remaining distance in.
I put the shaft back in, but forgot to mark the sides of the flange and the spot on the vdrive where the flange was attached. Anyone know if it matters if the flange is not in the same place relative to the vdrive? Can I just put it together wherever the holes line up and call it a day, or is there any alignment issue now?
Thanks–
Rodd Leeds
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