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    • #67134
      Anonymous

      I’m thinking about this at my desk at work away from my engine manuals.

      During our test sail the engine over heated and the heat exchanger was boiled refinished and remounted. Since then we’ve used the boat and the temp stays at 180F when warmed up and we have good water flow through the exhaust.

      The other day I pulled the cap off the coolant reservoir in the port lazerette because it was looking old and tired and that tank was empty. I was expecting it to be full like the radiator or coolant reservoir in my car. Anyway, now I’m confused as to what that tank actually is and what I should be seeing. Anyway, I was just pondering this and thought I’d ask since I don’t have my manuals at hand.

      Thanks!
      -p



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    • #70514
      john stevenson
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      Patrick,
      I'm not sure how your external or overflow coolant reservoir works. I didn't have one on my old W60. I filled the coolant through the cap on the engine reservoir. On my new Yanmar there is an overflow reservoir. I have been told to keep the coolant level on a cold engine between the “Low” and “Full” marks on the overflow reservoir. I add coolant to this reservoir not directly into the engine reservoir.
      So if yours works the way mine does, you should add coolant to that reservoir – to what level I don't know. Are there markings on the reservoir?
      This appears to indicate you are low on coolant, but probably not much. The cooling system will probably maintain a normal engine temperature until the coolant level gets real low.

      John

      On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I'm thinking about this at my desk at work away from my engine manuals.

      During our test sail the engine over heated and the heat exchanger was boiled refinished and remounted. Since then we've used the boat and the temp stays at 180F when warmed up and we have good water flow through the exhaust.

      The other day I pulled the cap off the coolant reservoir in the port lazerette because it was looking old and tired and that tank was empty. I was expecting it to be full like the radiator or coolant reservoir in my car. Anyway, now I'm confused as to what that tank actually is and what I should be seeing. Anyway, I was just pondering this and thought I'd ask since I don't have my manuals at hand.

      Thanks!
      -p


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    • #70516
      unabated
      Participant

      When you refilled you system, you probably had a
      “bubble” in there. After a fashion the bubble works
      it’s way up and out….and was displaced by some
      amount of fluid. Refill the reservoir. Keep checking
      it though, mine has never needed any more fluid.
      alan
      — John Stevenson <> wrote:

      Patrick,
      I’m not sure how your external or overflow coolant
      reservoir works. I
      didn’t have one on my old W60. I filled the coolant
      through the cap on the
      engine reservoir. On my new Yanmar there is an
      overflow reservoir. I have
      been told to keep the coolant level on a cold engine
      between the “Low” and
      “Full” marks on the overflow reservoir. I add
      coolant to this reservoir not
      directly into the engine reservoir.
      So if yours works the way mine does, you should add
      coolant to that
      reservoir – to what level I don’t know. Are there
      markings on the
      reservoir?
      This appears to indicate you are low on coolant, but
      probably not much. The
      cooling system will probably maintain a normal
      engine temperature until the
      coolant level gets real low.

      John

      On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Walters
      <>wrote:

      I’m thinking about this at my desk at work away

      from my engine manuals.

      During our test sail the engine over heated and

      the heat exchanger was

      boiled refinished and remounted. Since then we’ve

      used the boat and the temp

      stays at 180F when warmed up and we have good

      water flow through the

      exhaust.

      The other day I pulled the cap off the coolant

      reservoir in the port

      lazerette because it was looking old and tired and

      that tank was empty. I

      was expecting it to be full like the radiator or

      coolant reservoir in my

      car. Anyway, now I’m confused as to what that tank

      actually is and what I

      should be seeing. Anyway, I was just pondering

      this and thought I’d ask

      since I don’t have my manuals at hand.

      Thanks!
      -p



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    • #70515
      quent
      Participant

      Patrick-
      Assuming you have the Westerbeke 58 engine, and no obvious leaks in the cooling system, it is likely that some air was trapped in the engine cooling passages when they reworked the heat exchanger. If your boat is like ours (#132) there is a water heater at the forward end of the port lazerette. The hose for the expansion tank branches off the hose from the engine to the hot water heater.
      I would add a couple inches of water/coolant to the expansion tank, and see if it again goes away. If not, then you just displaced some air. If it does empty again, look for a leak around the hose connections.
      You might also carefully, with the engine running, try venting any remaining air from the petcocks on the upper thermostat housing, and the exhaust manifold.
      Quent

    • #70518
      Anonymous

      When the system finally becomes air free, the reservoir should always
      have room in it for fluid expansion, so don’t fill it more than aobut
      half full when the engine is cool. Of course, if the reservoir becomes
      empty, air will just be sucked back into the engine as it cools. So it
      is kind of a balance between too much fluid and too little.

      Pete

      alan P wrote:

      When you refilled you system, you probably had a
      “bubble” in there. After a fashion the bubble works
      it’s way up and out….and was displaced by some
      amount of fluid. Refill the reservoir. Keep checking
      it though, mine has never needed any more fluid.
      alan
      — John Stevenson <> wrote:

      Patrick,
      I’m not sure how your external or overflow coolant
      reservoir works. I
      didn’t have one on my old W60. I filled the coolant
      through the cap on the
      engine reservoir. On my new Yanmar there is an
      overflow reservoir. I have
      been told to keep the coolant level on a cold engine
      between the “Low” and
      “Full” marks on the overflow reservoir. I add
      coolant to this reservoir not
      directly into the engine reservoir.
      So if yours works the way mine does, you should add
      coolant to that
      reservoir – to what level I don’t know. Are there
      markings on the
      reservoir?
      This appears to indicate you are low on coolant, but
      probably not much. The
      cooling system will probably maintain a normal
      engine temperature until the
      coolant level gets real low.

      John

      On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Patrick Walters
      <>wrote:

      I’m thinking about this at my desk at work away

      from my engine manuals.

      During our test sail the engine over heated and

      the heat exchanger was

      boiled refinished and remounted. Since then we’ve

      used the boat and the temp

      stays at 180F when warmed up and we have good

      water flow through the

      exhaust.

      The other day I pulled the cap off the coolant

      reservoir in the port

      lazerette because it was looking old and tired and

      that tank was empty. I

      was expecting it to be full like the radiator or

      coolant reservoir in my

      car. Anyway, now I’m confused as to what that tank

      actually is and what I

      should be seeing. Anyway, I was just pondering

      this and thought I’d ask

      since I don’t have my manuals at hand.

      Thanks!
      -p



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    • #70519
      Anonymous

      This reminds me of the Saturday Night Live skit about Three Mile Island, the plant manager is going on vacation nd tells his staff. “Its simple. Just remember there can never been too much water in the reactor.” Next seen is them trying to decide to empty or add more water to the reactor and then the mushroom cloud. 😉

      This helps me a lot. I’m going to pull that reservoir, refinish it, remount it and reFILL it.

      Thanks!
      -p

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    • #70521
      RichCarter
      Participant

      My old W60 didn’t have one either. There was a tube connected to the overflow vent on the top of the coolant tank. Any excess would run down the tube and drip on the top of the fuel lift pump. This eventually caused the lift pump to corrode. When problems started to show up in the lift pump, I added an overflow tank and an external 12v fuel pump. You can get both for short money at an automotive store.

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