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    • #67270
      Tor
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      One of these days I’ll get around to making a private signal for dressing up Silver Heels. It’s a personal or owner’s pennant, which is traditionally flown from the mizzen truck on a ketch. Mine will bear a logo I’ve used for decades for a variety of boat-related enterprises – on stationary, business cards and (these days) web sites – a navy-type anchor in an oval with the admonition “Reef Early” arched across the top. I guess it’s silly, but I think flags are fun. I’ve got a little collection of them, plus a set of signal flags I hoist on special occasions. Even have a Union Jack to fly on Sundays & Holidays when the mood strikes.
      Tor
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    • #71222
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      Did you mean mizzen trUck or mizzen trAck? I’ve never heard of a mizzen truck… but I’m not that bright either.

      -p



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      Owners no more...
      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #71223
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Patrick,

      The truck of the mast is the set of fittings at the top that include the halyard sheaves and stay tangs (for the mizzen, that would be the running backstays and the fairweather or triatic stay. The trucks on our masts are welded on. On some, they are removable.

      Bob

      On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      Did you mean mizzen trUck or mizzen trAck? I've never heard of a mizzen truck… but I'm not that bright either.

      -p


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    • #71224
      Tor
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      “Truck” is a term I picked up from some flag etiquette sources. For all practical purposes, I think it means the masthead. A personal pennant or “private signal” is properly flown from the mizzen masthead on a ketch, normally hoisted by a “pig stick,” a flagstaff on a halyard. I figure to use the mizzen staysail halyard for this since it’s not used very often for its true purpose.
      FYI, Wikipedia defines pig stick this way: “A pig stick is a staff that carries a flag or pennant, usually the burgee of the boat owner’s yacht club, above a mast of a sailboat, it’s connected to a halyard so when it’s raised the top of the mast, the ‘pig stick’ extends above the mast allowing the flag to be seen flying above the boat’s sails.”
      And just to keep things perfectly clear and literally (if not politically) correct, the Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines “pigstick” this way: “To hunt the wild boar on horseback with a spear.” Take your pick.

      Tor
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    • #71225
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Tor,

      Ok, you made me research this. From WikiPedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_(rigging) . It is (was) a fitting at the top of the mast for flag halyards. Here's what Merriam-Webster has to say about trucks: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/truck%5B3%5D

      I find from that entry it actually does refer to the sheaves for the flag halyards (little wheels). From the term 'truckle'.

      What I'm getting at is there really is a part called the truck and it is the very opposite of the foot.

      All this by the way of giving you much more information than you need, wanted, or cared about. I've been using the term for the unit that holds all the sail halyard sheaves – I was in the right area but the wrong part of that area.

      Bob

      On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      “Truck” is a term I picked up from some flag etiquette sources. For all practical purposes, I think it means the masthead. A personal pennant or “private signal” is properly flown from the mizzen masthead on a ketch, normally hoisted by a “pig stick,” a flagstaff on a halyard. I figure to use the mizzen staysail halyard for this since it's not used very often for its true purpose.
      FYI, Wikipedia defines pig stick this way: “A pig stick is a staff that carries a flag or pennant, usually the burgee of the boat owner's yacht club, above a mast of a sailboat, it's connected to a halyard so when it's raised the top of the mast, the 'pig stick' extends above the mast allowing the flag to be seen flying above the boat's sails.”
      And just to keep things perfectly clear and literally (if not politically) correct, the Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines “pigstick” this way: “To hunt the wild boar on horseback with a spear.” Take your pick.

      Tor
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    • #71226
      Tor
      Participant

      Little wheels, indeed. Sometimes all this terminology makes me… truckle.

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    • #71227
      kalinowski
      Participant

      Being one that enjoys arcane marine flag etiquette (flying one’s own pennant on the mizzen would be a pleasure enjoyed by few), how exactly is a pigstick attached so that a vertical mount can be attained?

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #71228
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Dan,

      The pigstick has two eyes on it – upper and lower – that the halyard is attached to. When raised to the truck, the upper eye stops on the block and the lower one, near or at the bottom is made fast with the stick vertical. That's all there is to it.

      Bob

      On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 7:54 AM, kalinowski < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Being one that enjoys arcane marine flag etiquette (flying one's own pennant on the mizzen would be a pleasure enjoyed by few), how exactly is a pigstick attached so that a vertical mount can be attained?

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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