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December 24, 2008 at 11:41 am #67288
Anonymous
A while back I asked about the back stay. I believe you sent a reply that described how you solved your problem. At a Christmas party, I was speaking to my niece’s boyfriend/husband about my problem with my back stay and he said he would fabricate a new one for me. Problem is I can’t find your post. Will you please resend your post so I can draw up a set of plans and get my back stay problem fixed? This guy runs a big production shop that does a lot of precision work. If the new back stay turns out well I may be able to have others made for the group at reasonable cost. We shall see.
Thanks for the help and your contribution to the group.Lee
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December 25, 2008 at 1:10 pm #71319
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Are you talking about the backstay chainplate, the reenforcement of the transom, or the actual backstay?
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December 25, 2008 at 11:35 pm #71320
Anonymous
The chain plate.
Sorry about the confusion.
Lee
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December 26, 2008 at 12:16 am #71321
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If I remember correctly, there are several approaches expressed re backstay chainplates and transom reenforcement. Mine was to add a large but tapered patch of fiberglass inside the transom, including the inward flange at the hull/deck connection which greatly stiffed the transom center. The replacement chainplate was (I think) 3/8 by 2″ stainless bar stock. I used 316, but would probably use one of the duplex alloys in retrospect because 316 is less strong that 302/304, and no more resistant to stress corrosion cracking.
We have a sloop with a single backstay. Ketch rig, or if you opt for double or split backstay, your decision may well differ.
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December 27, 2008 at 1:24 am #71322
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The repair only applies to sloops and cutters. I’m not sure how many 424s were made with that rig. Here’s a link to my project pages. Click on the transom chainplate tab to view my notes. The project would work better if you welded the inside bracket assembly rather than bolt it. I had problems with the bolts interfering with each other. I also suggest electro-polishing the chainplate before installation.There is absolutely no sign of stess on the chainplate anymore.
http://www.richardcarter.net/Projects.html
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December 27, 2008 at 3:15 am #71323
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Rich,
Thanks for the info. I too have a 78 sloop and I am planning to do some off shore sailing. I am concerned about the backstay chain plate, hence my inquiry. I understand the angle iron was two pieces of 1/4 inch 316 stainless steel. How long was the total length of each piece of the chain plate?
Lee
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December 29, 2008 at 4:32 pm #71350
Anonymous
Hi Lee,Sorry for the late response. I just returned from a trip to Lake Tahoe with no TV or internet.
What we did on my boat was split the back stay to the rails. This design divides the load to the outside and eliminates a wire up your back while at the wheel. Reinforcing the existing design is not a logical solution. The angle of stress and vs. load factors make this a dangerous proposition.
I’ll go by the boat today and take installation photos to share with your rigger.
-Bill Emberley
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Alameda, CA 94501Studio 510-814-9519
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