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    • #67329
      Indulgence
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      Hello,

      Well Walter’s video from Madness this past fall inspired me…I am planning on taking Indulgence to Bermuda in the spring.  I think she is ready…over the past couple of years she has had a lot of work done (new rigging, sails, new chain plates, new fuel polishng, new Eprib, ample spares for coastal cruising, etc). 

      I have been doing my part to stimulate the economy over the past month.  If I new how much it cost to get a boat ready for an offshore passage…..I might have re-considered.  Recently, I have added an off-shore life raft, up-graded medical kit, harness and tethers for the crew, spare GPS, preventer, and used assymetrical spinnaker. 

      I’m having Balmar rebuild my alternator and will be purchasing a spare motorolla type alternator.  I still have to purchase charts, and ditch-bag supplies, ham radio and a laptop.  I have assembled my crew (all co-workers).  We have set the date for June 19th (depending on weather).

      Thanks to John from s/v Sarah (his Bermuda information is excellent), it became apparenty one of my biggest worries would be light winds….and as we all know, the 424 is not a great light wind performer. I decided to add the asymmetrical spinnaker to augment Indulgence’s light air permance.

      We’ll be sailing from Portland, ME and will be arriving (hopefully) about the same time as the Marion to Bermuda Race and a Cruising rally from NY.  From John’s website, it was pretty apparent that I would be lucky to average 120 miles a day sailing to Bermuda in June and would have to closely monitor fuel supplies. 

      I figure 7 days as the worst case for each leg…again with no issues to turning on the engine except for fuel. My question to the group is:

      What am I missing?  If you were sailing to Bermuda, what would you need/want to have on board? 

      Thanks for your advice and suggestions.


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    • #71599
      kalinowski
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      Carmen Elektra.

      Seriously though, I sailed from Hilton Head to Bmda on a 62′ ketch. Wind was on the nose all of the way. It made me understand the value of extra jerry cans on deck as extensive tacking didn’t fit into the skippers time table. Don’t cut the fuel supply thin.

      Dan Kalinowski

    • #71601
      Tor
      Participant

      Well, John, I’m not superstitious or anything, but… no way would I depart on that voyage on June 19th. There are 6 other, more auspicious days that week you could leave.

      http://geekswithblogs.net/mtreadwell/archive/2004/04/16/3995.aspx

      Tor
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    • #71602
      john stevenson
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      John,
      Bermuda is a great trip, I've only done it 4 times (not counting stopping on the way back from Europe), and I'm looking forward to my next trip.

      My only thought is that since you will be departing from Maine, most of this trip will likely be on a close reach rather than the broad reach from the Chesapeake Bay. So I suspect you will have more wind leverage than i did. I don't think you'll use the spinnaker on the way to Bermuda very much as any winds aft of abeam will likely be fresh to moderate. The spinnaker will likely be very useful for the return trip..

      Obviously the most important navigation issue is the Gulf Stream. It will be even more of a factor on your route than those I've sailed as you will be sailing through the area of greatest variation in its position, speed and eddies. I recommend you work with a good Gulf Stream specialist, such as Jenifer Clark, to get a good position on the stream and its eddies before you depart. Navigating the stream properly can be the difference of more than 24 hours in completing the cruise. Jenifer can provide a graphical Gulf Stream Analysis via email within 24 hours of your departure for about $35.

      The other piece of equipment that is very useful for an extended off-shore voyage is a SSB radio to receive updated Wx info enroute. This doesn't require a Ham license, but it is not a trivial equipment installation. You also have to be able to interpret the WX data you receive, primarily GRIB files. This isn't essential equipment for a voyage of less than 10 days and I would only recommend it if you have the time to invest in developing expertise in both the radio and the data. When i made the first trip to Bermuda on Sarah I understood the data (ex USAF meteorologist), but I was clueless on HF radio. Fortunately one of my crew was very knowledgeable on the radio side of things and between us it worked well. With just the SSB radio you can also us Herb Helgenberg as your weather router.

      June 19 is a good departure date. Late enough that most of the storm systems will be north of you once you are south of Cape Cod and early enough that tropical storms should not be a major threat for your return.

      Make sure you allow enough time to enjoy your stay in Berrmuda. Those Dark & Stormies can extend your time in port.

      John

      On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:35 PM, John Sommer < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Hello,

      Well Walter's video from Madness this past fall inspired me…I am planning on taking Indulgence to Bermuda in the spring. I think she is ready…over the past couple of years she has had a lot of work done (new rigging, sails, new chain plates, new fuel polishng, new Eprib, ample spares for coastal cruising, etc).

      I have been doing my part to stimulate the economy over the past month. If I new how much it cost to get a boat ready for an offshore passage…..I might have re-considered. Recently, I have added an off-shore life raft, up-graded medical kit, harness and tethers for the crew, spare GPS, preventer, and used assymetrical spinnaker.

      I'm having Balmar rebuild my alternator and will be purchasing a spare motorolla type alternator. I still have to purchase charts, and ditch-bag supplies, ham radio and a laptop. I have assembled my crew (all co-workers). We have set the date for June 19th (depending on weather).

      Thanks to John from s/v Sarah (his Bermuda information is excellent), it became apparenty one of my biggest worries would be light winds….and as we all know, the 424 is not a great light wind performer. I decided to add the asymmetrical spinnaker to augment Indulgence's light air permance.

      We'll be sailing from Portland, ME and will be arriving (hopefully) about the same time as the Marion to Bermuda Race and a Cruising rally from NY. From John's website, it was pretty apparent that I would be lucky to average 120 miles a day sailing to Bermuda in June and would have to closely monitor fuel supplies.

      I figure 7 days as the worst case for each leg…again with no issues to turning on the engine except for fuel. My question to the group is:

      What am I missing? If you were sailing to Bermuda, what would you need/want to have on board?

      Thanks for your advice and suggestions.


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    • #71603
      RichCarter
      Participant

      John
      My notes are attached if you haven’t already read them. The info is a
      little old, but it might help. Watch the weather in early June. Until the
      summer weather pattern kicks in, it can be a dangerous trip. I’ll be headed
      out that way around the 18th of June from Boston, but I’m taking a bigger
      boat, something about 900 feet.

      Good luck and wave if you see us. I’ll keep my eye open for you.
      Rich

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    • #71605
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      Hey no fair, I only though we were supposed to talk about working on boats. Now you’re going to actually sail yours and make the rest of us feel bad.
      Damn, now its a race to get out there and do some sailing. I guess it’s true any time you gave more than one boat, its a race. 🙂

      Congrats on the passage planning, do take pics and video if possible. Can’t wait to hear about your trip!!

      -p


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      Owners no more...
      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #71607
      Indulgence
      Participant

      Rich,

      Your notes are excellent!  Thank you for sharing. 

      John Sommer
      Indulgence #179
      Portland, ME


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    • #71608
      Tor
      Participant

      Rich,

      I enjoyed your voyage report and have added the 3″ cockpit/transom scupper to my to-do list. When did you make that trip? And what did you ultimately do to repair the oil-canning so that it won’t happen again?

      Tor
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    • #71609
      Paul Lefebvre
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      “And what did you ultimately
      do to repair the oil-canning so that it won’t happen again?”

      Tor”

      Most of this was covered in this discussion last year:

      https://www.pearson424.org/bb2forum/viewtopic.php?t=139&highlight=berth

      Paul


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    • #71614
      RichCarter
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      Tor
      I went there about 12 years ago. We had a Pearson 424 rendezvous on Martha’s Vinyard the year before. One of the other owners wanted to arrange another rendezvous for the following year in Bermuda. He and I were the only ones willing to make the trip.

      I hired a local guy in Bermuda to repair the glasswork. The price wasn’t that bad. He locked himself in the forward cabin for two or three days and repaired the damage; adding between 3/8″ and 3/4″ to the inside of the hull in the V-berth. He gelcoated the inside of the hull to keep the odor down while it cured.

      Rich


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