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    • #67435
      unabated
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      I want to install my Radar display so that it can swing out into the companionway when needed. I will need to mount some kind of swing arm to the bulkhead that is in the Nav Station.
      As anyone done this? What is behind the teak paneling?
      alan

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    • #72273
      madsailor
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      Hi Alan,

      Besides the two wood strips, nothing, really.  Make sure you use a big backing plate or some hefty fender washers.

      BOb

      On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I want to install  my Radar display so that it can swing out into the companionway when needed. I will need to mount some kind of swing arm to the bulkhead that is in the Nav Station.
      As anyone done this? What is behind the teak paneling?
      alan

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      Bob Fine
      s/v Pelican
      Hull #8

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    • #72274
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      I purchased my swing arm at  WM. I think it is still in the catalogue, but I couldn't find it online (finding things in the WM online catelogue is not always easy).
      Here's a link to a picture my mount:

       
      On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I want to install  my Radar display so that it can swing out into the companionway when needed. I will need to mount some kind of swing arm to the bulkhead that is in the Nav Station.
      As anyone done this? What is behind the teak paneling?
      alan

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      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

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    • #72275
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      Sorry, I didn't address how it is mounted.  Just wood screws into the plywood.  Unless you went out and purchase a 1970's radar CRT, the weight of the display doesn't require a very robust mounting.  Vibration and swinging of the arm has loosened the screws in my mount over time, but it only takes a second with a screw driver to tighten them – every couple of years when I notice a little wobble.
       
      John

      On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Hi Alan,

      Besides the two wood strips, nothing, really.  Make sure you use a big backing plate or some hefty fender washers.

      BOb

      On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Alan P < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I want to install  my Radar display so that it can swing out into the companionway when needed. I will need to mount some kind of swing arm to the bulkhead that is in the Nav Station.
      As anyone done this? What is behind the teak paneling?
      alan

      —
      Bob Fine
      s/v Pelican
      Hull #8

      —
      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

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    • #72276
      Tor
      Participant

      Alan,

      I’ve done that on Silver Heels. I included a mid-swing stop in the bracket so the radar screen can optionally face towards the captain’s berth across the cabin, allowing me to see what’s around without getting out of bed. Also a loud, external piezo beeper from Radio Shack to wake me up for sure when the perimeter alarm sounds. Will send photos & details later today.

      Tor
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    • #72277
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      BTW, the only problem I encountered with this installation is when sailing down wind in rain.  That requires the hatch boards to be in place.  Of course the hatch boards Pearson supplied are wood, not the best for viewing the radar unless you have Superman vision.  I had a clear plastic hatch board (1 piece) fabricated and it works great.  I also get more light in the aft cabin when the hatch board is in place.  The only remaining problem is having to remove the hatch board temporarily to fiddle with the display.  No solutioni is perfect.
       
      John

      On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      I've done that on Silver Heels. I included a mid-swing stop in the bracket so the radar screen can optionally face towards the captain's berth across the cabin, allowing me to see what's around without getting out of bed. Also a loud, external piezo beeper from Radio Shack to wake me up for sure when the perimeter alarm sounds. Will send photos & details later today.
       
      Tor
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    • #72278
      Anonymous

      I got my mounts from RAM Mount and thru bolted to the aft plywood.

      (sorry I don’t a picture in my files)

      Pete

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      I’ve done that on Silver Heels. I included a mid-swing stop in the
      bracket so the radar screen can optionally face towards the captain’s
      berth across the cabin, allowing me to see what’s around without
      getting out of bed. Also a loud, external piezo beeper from Radio
      Shack to wake me up for sure when the perimeter alarm sounds. Will
      send photos & details later today.

      Tor
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      Silver Heels, P-424 #17
      http://www.SilverHeels.us
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    • #72279
      unabated
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      The chart Plotter is going to be mounted on the cabin top, under the dodger (I think right now). The radar display (Furuno 1715 light weight LCD), I want mounted on the aft cabin bulkhead on the Nav Station side.
      Thru bolting it seems like the best idea, just don’t want the head of the bolts in the cockpit… Looks sloppy…. Does not seem like screwing it in the thin plywood is a good solution either….
      I wonder, is the bulkhead cored or sold glass or sandwiched plywood that I can put a couple of lag bolts into? Anyone know?
      a

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    • #72280
      Tor
      Participant

      Alan,

      Photos attached. This swing bracket was on the boat when I bought her, but bore a Loran screen. I modified the mount to take the radar screen, adding the middle notch for a bunk-facing position.

      Tor
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    • #72281
      RichCarter
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      Alan
      Something to consider, I used to have my radar mounted in my nav station. When I replaced it with an LCD unit, I put it at the wheel. I considered doing something you’re suggesting, but I don’t think I’d be able to read the display from the wheel, and there’s no way I could reach the controls to operate it. I really like it at the wheel as shown in the attached photo. If you need RADAR, you’re probably in either fog or darkness. If something sudden is seen, you don’t want to be running to the wheel. If you’re at the wheel, you don’t want to be having difficulty reading the display.

      If its raining, I usually sit on the bridgedeck under the dodger to stay dry while the boat runs on autopilot. Unfortunately, I can’t read the display from there. Its rare that I need to navigate by RADAR in the rain however. I don’t want to even think about a repeater. I suppose I could turn my unit around and have it face forward.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #72282
      unabated
      Participant

      Tor, Thanks for the pictures. That’s exactly what I want to do.
      Have you been able to establish whether the screw go further than just that flimsy piece of vaneer or into the bulkhead? Type of screw or length?
      BTW, what model RADAR is that?
      alan

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    • #72283
      Tor
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      Alan,

      The screws only fasten into the thin plywood facing there. It’s holding for now, but it isn’t strong enough to be permanent. When I get around to it, I’ll epoxy a broad, thick mounting block onto the plywood and screw the mount into that. It’ll spread the load and give the screws something solid to grab. Incidentally, there is enough hollow space behind that plywood to run the cables discretely down and back into the engine compartment, there to travel out of sight to their various destinations.

      My radar is the cheapest little Furuno model available 2 years ago, the 1623. Cost around 1 boat unit (if you measure those as $1k each). I don’t expect to use it so much for navigation, although I will do that on occasion. Its main function here is to help stand watch on passages, especially single-handed passages, with its perimeter alarm. Hence the piezo buzzer I added to guarantee it’ll wake up a sleeping skipper on a boisterous night offshore whenever anything big comes within 5 or 6 miles.

      Tor
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