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April 1, 2009 at 6:11 pm #67443
Tor
ParticipantBob,
I set up my shower sump system as you did, i.e., a hose from the shower pan through an inline filter to a 12v pump and then directly overboard. However, I left the original (now-lidless) Pearson sump box where it was, just forward of the V-drive. For now it collects the fridge drain hose runoff, but it’ll probably become a small storage bin when I provision for the long haul.
Bob, we need to come up with a shallow, easy-to-clean (as in non-teak) shower stall grate to get our feet out of the water between sumps. I’d like some kind of plastic, similar to what so-called milk crates are made of. Free/cheap is better than WM pricey. Any ideas?
Tor
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April 1, 2009 at 9:22 pm #72332
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ModeratorI do, indeed have an idea – instead of using teak (EXPENSIVE) use ipe (eee pay) which is cheapish. Need carbide saw blades to cut but there is no reason we couldn't make a nice thing out of that.
There is commercial plastic grates that are thicker than the things at WM which are about the same price, but you only need 4 or so, for about $20.
I took the box out because it was in my way. It came out very easily.
Bob
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I set up my shower sump system as you did, i.e., a hose from the shower pan through an inline filter to a 12v pump and then directly overboard. However, I left the original (now-lidless) Pearson sump box where it was, just forward of the V-drive. For now it collects the fridge drain hose runoff, but it'll probably become a small storage bin when I provision for the long haul.
Bob, we need to come up with a shallow, easy-to-clean (as in non-teak) shower stall grate to get our feet out of the water between sumps. I'd like some kind of plastic, similar to what so-called milk crates are made of. Free/cheap is better than WM pricey. Any ideas?
Tor
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April 1, 2009 at 10:02 pm #72333
Tor
ParticipantBob,
I’d rather avoid wood in there. Any idea where one might find the commercial plastic grates?
Tor
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April 1, 2009 at 10:37 pm #72335
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ModeratorLet me see what I can find…
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:
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I'd rather avoid wood in there. Any idea where one might find the commercial plastic grates?
Tor
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April 1, 2009 at 11:02 pm #72336
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ParticipantTor:
These should do the trick:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|311409|311441&id=1061229
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April 1, 2009 at 11:06 pm #72337
john stevensonParticipantThat's the stuff my PO had in the cockpit. They are not very comfortable for bare feet, but then you don't want anyone just standing in the shower and soaking. I removed them from the cockpit and put them in my storage bin for several years. When I left the Chesapeake I gave them away.
Tor, just a few years too late and you could have had them for the shipping.
John
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Tor:
These should do the trick:
http://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|10918|311409|311441&id=1061229
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April 1, 2009 at 11:09 pm #72338
unabated
ParticipantOne of the things I’ve learned, is not to use bar soap in the shower. The same thing that makes it into a bar – makes it solid again in the sump. Since I’ve switched to “body wash” – no more standing water in the shower…. drains very nicely!
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April 2, 2009 at 12:37 am #72339
Tor
ParticipantThanks, Paul. I should’ve mentioned that my idea is to raise the grid 2″ off the shower floor so the water can accumulate beneath it in between pump-outs, keeping my feet out of it. This Dri-Dek appears to be too flexible for that. A rigid grate mounted on a starboard supporting border and maybe a center support block is what I’m aiming for. As I said earlier, the plastic grid of a milk crate seems about right. Hmmm, maybe I could cut up a milk crate and use the side sections…
Tor
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April 2, 2009 at 2:52 am #72342
hanks424
ParticipantHey gang. I just “re-discovered” the 424 list after being absent for a while. On SHAY, I’ve abandoned the shower sump by installing a self-contained pump, float switch, strainer a friend gave me (I think it was made by Attwood). Both the shower and AC condensate drain into it, and water is pumped overboard automatically as it fills. It holds about 3 quarts. Works great.
Hank Sarkis
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April 2, 2009 at 1:37 pm #72345
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Sounds like a sump. What am I missing?
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Quote:Hey gang. I just “re-discovered” the 424 list after being absent for a while. On SHAY, I’ve abandoned the shower sump by installing a self-contained pump, float switch, strainer a friend gave me (I think it was made by Attwood). Both the shower and AC condensate drain into it, and water is pumped overboard automatically as it fills. It holds about 3 quarts. Works great.Hank Sarkis
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April 2, 2009 at 3:45 pm #72347
hanks424
ParticipantYea, it’s a small sump with a float switch/pump. No more manual pumpouts. Small size=little standing water. Can be moved/relocated easily.
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April 3, 2009 at 12:59 am #72352
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ParticipantTor
A bread rack sounds like what you are looking for. It is about the same size as the shower.
Linus
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April 3, 2009 at 1:11 am #72354
sumocean
ParticipantI use dri deck behind the bar to allow the glasses to dry. I use it on the boat in the anchor locker. It seems to help keep the rode a little dryer and that’s good.
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April 3, 2009 at 1:44 am #72356
Tor
ParticipantLinus,
By bread rack do you mean a tray or shelf of heavy, coated wire? Where do you suppose one might find/buy such a thing?
Tor
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April 3, 2009 at 2:11 am #72357
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ParticipantTor
You could hit the grocery store and check with the trucks out back. You said that free cheap was better. I think you could find a plastic grate either bread or I have even had grapes delivered on a small mesh collapsible plastic box. They are like the bottom of a milk crate only the slats are much closer together With the size of the shower I think (just going by my poor memory) that you could use a broken one and trim it to fit. Maybe one of the delivery drivers or grocery employees can hook you up.
Linus
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April 3, 2009 at 12:01 pm #72360
Tor
ParticipantBrilliant, Linus! Thanks.
Tor
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April 5, 2009 at 12:44 pm #72365
madsailor
ModeratorHi Tor,
Here's a link to thick industrial grating. I know nothing of cost, but I think a silver tongued devil such as yourself could talk them out of 4 square feet for 'evaluation'…
http://www.strongwell.com/products/molded_prod/molded_grating/
Bob
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April 5, 2009 at 1:49 pm #72366
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ModeratorIt looks really uncomfortable to stand on in bare feet. Let us know
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Hi Tor,
Here’s a link to thick industrial grating. I know nothing of cost,
but I think a silver tongued devil such as yourself could talk them
out of 4 square feet for ‘evaluation’…http://www.strongwell.com/products/molded_prod/molded_grating/
Bob
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April 5, 2009 at 2:27 pm #72367
quent
ParticipantInstead of a grating, how about a fiberglass floor slightly smaller than the shower floor, but a couple inches higher? The water would run off under it to the drain, and it wouldn’t be so tough on the feet.
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April 5, 2009 at 2:31 pm #72368
Tor
ParticipantThanks very much, Bob. That does look like the right stuff. If I don’t make something from milk crates (or a WalMart shopping cart), I’ll give them a call.
Tor
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April 5, 2009 at 3:37 pm #72371
Tor
ParticipantQuent,
That’s an excellent approach, but time-consuming. I’m at the tail end of 2+ years refitting this good old boat and, while I’ve enjoyed it immensely, I’m ready to go sailing now. I can make a shower pan grate from some prefab mesh material, framed, fitted, functional and presentable, in a half-day or less. Don’t think I’m patient enough right now to build a second, properly finished fiberglass floor from scratch. Thanks for the perfectly sound suggestion, though.
Tor
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April 5, 2009 at 4:23 pm #72372
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ParticipantAny boatbuilders near your location? I find plenty of nice gelcoated pieces of fiberglass laminate in a dumpster in Annapolis.
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April 5, 2009 at 4:56 pm #72375
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Just came across this: Teak shower trays… http://www.teakworks4u.com/?gclid=CP72uZea2pkCFQzxDAodJwMZWg
Pete
quent wrote:
Any boatbuilders near your location? I find plenty of nice gelcoated pieces of fiberglass laminate in a dumpster in Annapolis.
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April 5, 2009 at 5:26 pm #72376
Tor
ParticipantOh, now, that’s brilliant. I’ll check around. Thanks!
Tor
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April 5, 2009 at 5:35 pm #72377
Tor
ParticipantThanks, Pete. I had a teak shower grate in my last boat. It was difficult to clean. I’m thinking plastic will be easier. Cheaper, too. This is more for function than decor.
Tor
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April 5, 2009 at 6:06 pm #72380
madsailor
ModeratorHi Tor, Pat, and Pete,
The plastic grating comes in 1/4″ x 1/4″ holes so it's not bad at all to stand on.
Bob
PS I like the teak thing for $99. But I'm a sucker for stuff like that….
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