And a Happy Washdown Day to you, Bob.

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Aloha to All

Hey i just installed a 5.0 gpm wash down system in the anchor locker and was thinking of putting in a tee or y to the forward freshwater holding tank so we could get a quick rinse after going for a swim…

is it a bad idea to combine a fresh and salt water system. i would have the proper valves and back flow preventers to prevent cross contamination.

just courious about what others are doing, 5 gmp is a lot of pressure and will really go thru the fresh water quickly but would save us adding a seperate hot/cold rince set up!

james

OK, So where are you getting the water from, as in which thru hull. What kinf of pump? Where did you run the hose to? Using a Spigot?
alan

— On Sun, 4/12/09, Silver Heels <> wrote:

I have yet to use it yet, but the PO put in an anchor wash down pump. What I have is a ShurFlo Marine Tough Blaster 3.5 GPM 12v 11amp max pump located under the port v-berth sink. It is plumbed into the seacock for the sink drain with no strainer.
There is a hose fitting on deck just under the toe rail even with where the pump is mounted. There is a switch for it located for it in the cabinet under the sink as well.

I have since removed the sink in the v-berth and the through hull there is now dedicated to the this pump. It needs a strainer added to it as well. I may move the switch above deck when I redo the windlass.

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Alan,

For what it’s worth, I installed a 12v Pro Blaster 4.0 GPM washdown pump (WM/PS #7877863) on the forward port area of the “shelf” that used to be the bottom of the shallow anchor locker. (I modified that section of the boat by opening, dividing and decking over the chain locker. So the remaining perimeter of the shelf is now internal, below the foredeck.)

The pump feeds a Jabsco Washdown Fitting with Adapter (WM/PS #6620512), which is a virtually flush mount fitting that holds back the water pressure until you plug in the hose adapter (and then open the hose nozzle). I mounted that on the inboard face of the foredeck coaming, beneath and offset to starboard of the starboard anchor stock.

The pump’s feed hose is long, running from a seawater intake manifold in the area of the mid-ship companionway. However, that long hose run is below water level and so is naturally pressurized all the way forward until the last vertical rise to the pump. So the pump draws about as easily as it would from a closer thru-hull. (I removed the forepeak sink & thru-hull.)

I’ve only tested the washdown a couple of times, but it seems to work perfectly. The water stream is strong enough to knock sticky mud from the anchor chain, and for washing down the decks, as well. I believe it could also come in handy for firefighting.

Tor
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Thanks Tor,
Is that 5/8 or 3/4 inch hose? I think 4gpm should be enough volume.
alan

— On Mon, 4/13/09, Silver Heels <> wrote:

Alan,

I used 3/4″ hose.

Tor
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Hey Bob,

I like your idea of all the pumps in one accessible place. I put the washdown pump close to the foredeck outlet because it seemed like the force of the pumped water would decrease as the distance from the pump increased, like voltage dropping in a long wire run. Or is this another case of counter-intuitive rules?

Certainly my installation is much less convenient than yours for servicing the pump. I have to empty the chain locker, remove the (removable) divider, and squeeze myself in there to get to the pump in any meaningful way. It’s not hard to do, just tedious. I had originally planned to install a small, circular deck hatch over the pump for ready access, but decided against it for what are probably obvious reasons. Anyway, the pump being new, I’m hopeful I won’t have to get to it for a while.

Tor
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Or…. use the shower stall, that's what it's there for.  So you track a little water from the companionway to the head – it is a boat.  Use the washdown to clean off any sand or dirt.

John

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Hi Tor,

You are totally correct – the loss of head is proportional to the length of pipe.  It is, indeed, like resistance in a wire.  But with 3/4″ hose or 5/8″ hose over about 25 feet the loss isn't that great, or not great enough to make a difference for what we're doing, at least that's my seat-of-the-pants theory.  3.5 gpm isn't a lot of flow.

James, I'm not sure why you'd want to run up to the bow to rinse off and I'd really be hesitant to cross connect salt and fresh water as Murphy rules in this arena.  Why not install a shower in the cockpit attached to the cold and hot water in the area of the water heater.  I've put one in and I can send pictures for it, if you'd like.  I love the cockpit shower!

It took me about 2 hours to install.

Bob

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s/v Pelican
Hull #8

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John Stevenson
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Bob,
Still sounds to me like a solution looking for a problem, but then again that's why we don't all have the same onboard equipment.

John

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

I'm sorry, John, but the luxury of a freshwater shower in the cockpit wherein you can wash yourself, the seats, your dive gear and if you are so inclined, your significant other is just too much to relegate to the shower… 

Bob

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:54 AM, John Stevenson < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Or…. use the shower stall, that's what it's there for.  So you track a little water from the companionway to the head – it is a boat.  Use the washdown to clean off any sand or dirt.

John

On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Hi Tor,

You are totally correct – the loss of head is proportional to the length of pipe.  It is, indeed, like resistance in a wire.  But with 3/4″ hose or 5/8″ hose over about 25 feet the loss isn't that great, or not great enough to make a difference for what we're doing, at least that's my seat-of-the-pants theory.  3.5 gpm isn't a lot of flow.

James, I'm not sure why you'd want to run up to the bow to rinse off and I'd really be hesitant to cross connect salt and fresh water as Murphy rules in this arena.  Why not install a shower in the cockpit attached to the cold and hot water in the area of the water heater.  I've put one in and I can send pictures for it, if you'd like.  I love the cockpit shower!

It took me about 2 hours to install.

Bob

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Bob Fine
s/v Pelican
Hull #8

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Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com

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Bob Fine
s/v Pelican
Hull #8

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Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com

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Aloha to All

i love this stuff, that looks like a pretty kool deck fitting Tor – have you given the fresh water/salt water option a thought since you have access to both in the same area. in the forward Vee. the only thing i was thing is that if you have one thingy that will do two thingy’s you save having another system to deal with. i actually like the idea of getting those wet bodies (bikini’s as they say here in hawaii) up on the bow for a quick cold , wet rinse!. just kidding,

James

James,

I don’t see myself or my crew going up to the bow for a freshwater rinse. That sort of thing seems most natural in the cockpit (or on a swim platform if there is one), close to the swim ladder. I may eventually put in a freshwater shower in the cockpit, or might just be content with my Home Depot portable manual pressure water system, i.e., a big, orange insecticide canister pressurized by a hand pump, with a handheld shower nozzle instead of a foliage spray wand.

I agree it’d be nice to find additional uses for that deckwash pump, which I expect to use almost never once I’m in the West Indies. However, other than firefighting I can’t think of anything practical. I suppose you could always have some fun wetting down the crew aboard boats & dinghies that pass too close, or spouting in boat parades like a miniature fireboat. Maybe try sticking the nozzle into the water and see if it’ll function as a bow thruster…

Tor
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I want to replace the counter tops in the galley as part of my freezer/refrigerator upgrade. Has anyone done this? If so how did you approach removing the original counter top? I’d like to replace the existing counter top material, which is some kind of plastic material, with something that is less prone to scratches and heat damage. Any ideas out there?

Also, has anyone found a direct replacement for the galley sink? The sink installed in Morning Glory is 22 1/4 X 16 1/2 and about 9 inches deep and it needs to be replaced. I want to keep the Admiral happy.

Lee

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There are two lights there and an analog gauge.

One is the holding tank full light the other lights when ever the water
pump runs. I also have a pretty sophisticated systems alarm circuit
board that I built up which monitors the water pump and if it runs
continuously for over a certain amount of time, the master alarm sounds
and the alarm indicator panel shows the problem. (I have seen tanks
pumped empty by a faucet left open or a broken/loose hose). Also helps
keep the girls’ showers under control.

The analog gauge is a tank tender system for the water tanks. Came with
the boat. I really should replace it with a SCADtech tank gauge, but
hey, its there.

Regarding the Admiral happiness gauge, that is kept closer to the aft
berth and tends to vibrate…

Pete

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