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June 1, 2009 at 2:08 am #67530
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OK guys the windlass project is almost over. I can make the anchor go up and down, but (OK you knew that there was going to be a but) when the shank of the anchor hits the roller it gets in a bind. I can push the head of the anchor out with a boat hook and the windlass pulls it right up. If the windlass pulls everything but the last foot I think I can handle that but if it is a fixable problem I would rather give it a shot. With the roller out in front of the boat I can let the anchor swing and maybe try to get lucky with the switch. I think that I can try a larger roller. I have to measure the one that I have now to see what my options are. If anyone has experience with this sort of thing help would be greatly appreciated.
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June 1, 2009 at 10:20 am #72781
quent
ParticipantWe have a Lewmar 900 which is on the small end of the range for boats like the P-424. It has sufficient power to raise our 60# Manson, but won’t pull it over the roller because the chain jumps off the windlass.
However if we attach the snubber chain hook to the chain just above the roller and take a couple turns on the windlass drum it comes up just fine.
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June 1, 2009 at 12:26 pm #72782
john stevensonParticipantLinus,
It's hard to tell from the photo, but my guess is your chain stopper is too low relative to the roller and prevents the anchor shank from coming above the roller enough to flip over horizontal. Try it once with the chain out of the chain stopper and see if everything works. I don't know what elevating the chain stopper will do to the operation of the windlass. Maybe also try it without the swivel, just a bow shackle.
My windlass (manual Lofrans Royal) is mounted just aft of where your chain stopper is located so I don't have a stopper. I have to lift my main anchor (Bruce) into the roller because I have a Chinese CQR in the port roller.On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:20 AM, quent < ([email][/email])> wrote:
We have a Lewmar 900 which is on the small end of the range for boats like the P-424. It has sufficient power to raise our 60# Manson, but won't pull it over the roller because the chain jumps off the windlass.
However if we attach the snubber chain hook to the chain just above the roller and take a couple turns on the windlass drum it comes up just fine.
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June 1, 2009 at 3:37 pm #72783
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You’re right I really haven’t taken pictures with the anchor in a bind. I did try it without the chain stopper and had the same problem. The clutch is slipping so what Quent said might be the case. I just didn’t want to put too much stress on the roller, I’m a little chicken and as usual I ran out of time and had to return to work before I was able to resolve the problem. It sure would be nice to have the anchor jump right up on the roller so I can use the switch by the wheel to raise the anchor when short handed.
Linus
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June 1, 2009 at 4:43 pm #72784
john stevensonParticipantLinus,
Think Quent's issue (Quent, please correct me) is that the Manson is pulling the chain off the wheel, possibly because the anchor shank is very long and lifts the chain off the wheel. If your clutch is slipping with a Fortress and the the shank never gets over the roller you may have a different problem. Since the Fortress is a pretty light anchor which shouldn't cause the clutch to slip it is likely the chain/swivel/anchor is binding on the roller – possibly due to the 90 deg turn at the roller.Then again I have a manual windlass and I don't have the option of pulling the anchor into the roller because of the interference of the other anchor. So I've never had to solve this particular problem.
John
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Linus Martinez < ([email][/email])> wrote:
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You're right I really haven't taken pictures with the anchor in a bind. I did try it without the chain stopper and had the same problem. The clutch is slipping so what Quent said might be the case. I just didn't want to put too much stress on the roller, I'm a little chicken and as usual I ran out of time and had to return to work before I was able to resolve the problem. It sure would be nice to have the anchor jump right up on the roller so I can use the switch by the wheel to raise the anchor when short handed.
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June 1, 2009 at 5:46 pm #72785
quent
ParticipantMy problem is that the chain slips on the wildcat because, being a horizontal windlass, it only engages 1/4 turn of the wildcat. The snubber line gives another two turns on the drum. This is sufficient to pull the anchor over the roller.
I agree with John with the weight difference being a factor. However a Fortress has a lot of windage and when weighing the anchor you usually are going into the wind. This alone could prevent the anchor from turning on the roller.
Some boats address these problems using a second roller mounted lower and forward of the current one, possibly on an extension. This would have the same effect as a much larger roller and the shank of the anchor would turn easier to a horizontal position.
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