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    • #67554
      unabated
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      I finally got my 6 HP KUBOTA running. Now that I know it runs, I need to install it.
      Who out there has a generator installed? I really want to put it in the aft lazerette.
      I am thinking putting in a few stringers for and aft.
      Anyone done this one yet.
      alan

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    • #72938
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      That is where my Northern Lights generator sits.  However, I didn't do the install.   Hartges Yard in Galesville, MD did it for the PO.  They had to do some pretty sophisticated fiberglass work to put it in (wouldn't fit through the hatch opening).  It sits on a bed in the lazarette.  I assume your Kubota is much smaller and will fit in the hatch openning.

      On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I finally got my 6 HP KUBOTA running. Now that I know it runs, I need to install it.
      Who out there has a generator installed? I really want to put it in the aft lazerette.
      I am thinking putting in a few stringers for and aft.
      Anyone done this one yet.
      alan

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      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

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    • #72939
      unabated
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      I think it will fit….. I got some final measuring to do. I was interested in how they mounted it. Do you have any pictures?
      Do you use it just for generating or do you have a water maker in there too?
      alan

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    • #72940
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Alan,
      No pics of the mounting.  Lots of pics of the trial and tribs of generator maintenance.
      http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/ewBahamasGenset.htm
      Just used to generate AC.  No water maker.

      On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      I think it will fit….. I  got some final measuring to do. I was interested in how they mounted it. Do you have any pictures?
      Do you use it just for generating or do you have a water maker in there too?
      alan

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    • #72981
      unabated
      Participant

      John and anyone else who has a generator mounted on the boat as opposed to a portable one:
      If you had to do it over again, would you go for the portable or mounted generator.
      I am trying to figure the PITA factor with continuing to work on mounting my 6 hp KUBOTA in the lazzerete.
      I want to put in a decent size water maker and maybe generate some DC without having to run the red beast.
      I want to put in the water maker to eliminate the “run to a water source” or hauling and lugging of same.
      Thoughts, ideas, encouragement, discouragement?
      alan

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    • #72983
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      I can't directly relate to the PITA installation factor, because my generator was installed by the PO.  I can say the PITA de-installation factor kept me throwing money at the damn thing over this winter in the Bahamas.  It is back in operation and should give me several more years of service, but the cost of those repairs exceeded that of the Honda 1000 (and maybe the 2000).  So if this sucker fails again I will likely bite the bullet and have the fiberglass work done to remove it once and for all.  Then I will go the portable route.

      That said, if you own the Kubota and it will fit into the lazarette without cutting out the opening, I'd give it a try.  It's a lot more convenient, once installed, than running the portable and you don't need to keep great quantities of gasoline on deck.  I don't know the KW rating of the Kubota, but my NL is 4.5 KW – more than I get from 30A shore power connections.  So it will handle everything, possibly even the A/C – although I've never been even tempted to try that.  It is nice, in the morning, to start the generator from inside the cabin and plug in my electric tea kettle while charging the batteries and running the frig.  Of course I had few of those mornings this past winter.

      John

      On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      John and anyone else who has a generator mounted on the boat as opposed to a portable one:
      If you had to do it over again, would you go for the portable or mounted generator.
      I am trying to figure the PITA factor with continuing to work on mounting my 6 hp KUBOTA in the lazzerete.
      I want to put in a decent size water maker and maybe generate some DC without having to run the red beast.
      I want to put in the water maker to eliminate the  “run to a water source” or hauling and lugging of same.
      Thoughts, ideas, encouragement, discouragement?
      alan

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    • #72984
      kalinowski
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      Alan:

      I just saw a pic on the site of a 424 owner that had built a box/table between the mizzen and the binnicle for his propane tank. This reminded me of a 42′ cat that I recently checked out, where the owner mounted his genset in a similar box/table in the cockpit. It might be an easier/safer alternative. Of course, this is off the top of the head without regard for reality items such as measurements.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #72985
      quent
      Participant

      Been there, done that; got the dirty and torn t-shirt.
      We pulled out the batteries from the stb. cockpit lazarette, built a new platform, installed a box of four golf cart batteries aft, and a 6 hp Kubota with a 130 amp alternator forward of that. Kubota ran fine in the driveway. In the lazarette, nothing. Got to Florida, still nothing. Called the best reputation diesel guy in Vero Beach. He sent an untrained kid who borrowed my service book, tried repeatedly to call other service guys, then took the fuel injection apart and announced we had low compression and it would be $2000 to fix the motor, with no guarantee, and I was already out $250.
      I kicked him off the boat and bought the Honda. I’ll eventually fix the Kubota because it has the cheapest and most available parts of any engine, but it is wasted space and weight.
      A second alternator on the engine and 320 watts of solar are all we really need unless we run the 12 volt watermaker and the 12 volt deep freezer a lot. In that case, the Honda would pick up the slack, or we could just motor somewhere for a couple hours.
      Way too much stuff on this boat!!
      Quent

    • #72986
      Paul Lefebvre
      Participant

      Alan:

      As I think you know, Rich Boren installed the same setup as you are attempting on his 365. He was able to get it in the port locker. It looks like he added the alternator after getting it down there. However, I think you have your propane tanks in the location he put his in. You may want to ask him how he feels about the setup now that he has used it for a season in Mexico. I do know that he has also purchased a 2000i so that he could run an air conditioner on the boat as well.

      http://www.sailblogs.com/member/svthirdday/?xjMsgID=60564

      Paul

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    • #72988
      unabated
      Participant

      Hi Paul,
      I love the storage in the port locker. My Stb locker is full of batteries that I am not going to move. I figure the weight of the generator will offset the 300 ft of chain I have up in the pointy end if I put the generator in the back of the boat.
      call me when you get a chance about the fall schedule.
      a

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    • #72990
      Anonymous

      Does your boat list to stbd with all those batteries and the generator
      on the same side? I was going to put my generator opposite the
      batteries to balance the weight.

      Pete

      quent wrote:

      Been there, done that; got the dirty and torn t-shirt.
      We pulled out the batteries from the stb. cockpit lazarette, built a
      new platform, installed a box of four golf cart batteries aft, and a 6
      hp Kubota with a 130 amp alternator forward of that. Kubota ran fine
      in the driveway. In the lazarette, nothing. Got to Florida, still
      nothing. Called the best reputation diesel guy in Vero Beach. He sent
      an untrained kid who borrowed my service book, tried repeatedly to
      call other service guys, then took the fuel injection apart and
      announced we had low compression and it would be $2000 to fix the
      motor, with no guarantee, and I was already out $250.
      I kicked him off the boat and bought the Honda. I’ll eventually fix
      the Kubota because it has the cheapest and most available parts of any
      engine, but it is wasted space and weight.
      A second alternator on the engine and 320 watts of solar are all we
      really need unless we run the 12 volt watermaker and the 12 volt deep
      freezer a lot. In that case, the Honda would pick up the slack, or we
      could just motor somewhere for a couple hours.
      Way too much stuff on this boat!!
      Quent


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    • #72991
      quent
      Participant

      Hi Pete
      No list. we upgraded the hot water heater to an 18 gallon unit, and installed the other four batteries under the quarter berth with the refrig compressor, all on port side. In addition, there are plenty of port side lockers to fill with heavy stuff. To list suggests that one side would come up higher in the water, not our problem. Sigh.
      Quent

    • #72996
      Anonymous

      How the hell / where did you fit an 18 gallon water heater?

      quent wrote:

      Hi Pete
      No list. we upgraded the hot water heater to an 18 gallon unit, and
      installed the other four batteries under the quarter berth with the
      refrig compressor, all on port side. In addition, there are plenty of
      port side lockers to fill with heavy stuff. To list suggests that one
      side would come up higher in the water, not our problem. Sigh.
      Quent


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    • #72997
      quent
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      Hi Aaron-
      Forward end, port cockpit lazarette. There is an access door from the quarter berth. Old round one came out, new box shaped one went in. It was a pretty close fit but once it was in. I think I had to remove the battens from around the opening, and bend down the mounting flanges on the new water heater. I was younger then.
      Quent

    • #73039
      RichCarter
      Participant

      I had a portable Yamaha generator on my boat for several years. I tried mounting it in the cockpit, but the noise from the generator reverberated through the cabin. I think the dodger acts as a sound amplifier. there is also the issue of carbon monoxide. I moved it to the doghouse for the main cabin companionway. It partially obstructed the helmsman’s view, but not so much that it caused a problem. Mounted up on deck, the noise was much less obnoxious. I got rid of the generator when I got a smart regulator.

      Regards
      Rich

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