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John, The ATN ascenders work pretty well if you make the static line really taught. I raise it with a halyard and cleat it then run the static line through the Genoa car to the primary winch. Doing this and using a HI-Tech line as the static line really cuts down on the sag. David
On Jul 27, 2009, John Stevenson <> wrote:Don,The ATN ascenders were never the problem, probably are very similar to the Petzl. Entiene (AKA ATN) was a rock climber like a lot of the French solo sailors. The Topclimber instructions said to terminate the climbing rope near the bow, which is probably why I always sagged toward the mast. I never tried it secured to a mast cleat. I’ll give that a try. Thanks.The mast steps work fine, except when I need sit up there for awhile. Then I need someone on deck to control the bosum chair. If I can get the Topclimber to work for me I won’t need that additional person.The mast steps do grab the main halyard, but it is normally only a problem when raising sail down wind. I’ve considered using the monofiliament line to prevent the halyard from wrapping the steps. I hadn’t considered the noise factor. Thanks for that info. Saves me one counter-productive boat project.On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Syringa < ([email][/email])> wrote:
JohnI have never used the Topclimber system so don’t know how good their ascenders are. mine is about the same but uses Petzl ascenders they are made for rock climing, caving & mountain climbing/ they don’t slip and go up the line with ease. I winch my halyard to the top (Hard) then sit in my chair to get any stretch out of the line. I have my wife tie off the bitter end of the line to a mast cleat to remove most of the slack. I had mast steps on my Gulfstar 37 and like them pretty well but the halyard likes to get stuck between the steps at the worst time, so I put a 150# fishing line on the outside of the steps which keeps the halyard from between the steps, but the line would start howling when the wind got above 15 knots and would scream at 30 or more (I like my sleep and don’t want to hear about a little wind at night.)
Don GardnerS/V Syringa #124/)+/)+~=:)
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Hi,
I use the Mast Mate system – I have one for the main and one for the mizzen. I've gone up by myself and have worked at the top of the main mast for 4 hours comfortably. I use the main halyard to raise the steps and essentially just walk right up. They come with a thing like a lineman's belt and that holds you against the mast leaning back. I also use a rock climber's harness and Lyrakis harness combined as a safety. The safety goes around the mast when the belt needs to be removed to go around the spreaders, rigging, and so forth. When at the top, I loop it over the masthead and it will prevent my falling if something really bad happens. Getting down might be an issue, though.
The downside, of course, on the mizzen is that there's only one halyard. One of the major differences is that the steps are attached to the mast in the track and that means that there's no swinging about in a seaway. Do I know this to be true? Not yet and I hope never to find out, but it seems logical. Another downside is it's difficult to work on the forward side of the mast, but not impossible.
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Bob
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