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    • #67639
      kalinowski
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      Has anyone with a Westerbeke 58 added an auto oil change gizmo? If so, which one? Any guidance? I haven’t crawled “down under” yet and am making the blind assumption that there is a drain plug under the engine. This project has slithered up my punch list.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #73424
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      My PO had added a hose to the bottom of the oil pan which was slightly more useful and probably just as messy as going in with a pump into the dipstick. The connection point for that is on the starboard side of the engine.
      Here’s a shot of the end of that hose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/deepplaya/3260788951/

      -p



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      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #73429
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi,

      The PO didn't add it.  Westerbeke did.  It's a 3/8″ MPT fitting.  You can attach it to almost anything.  I'm thinking of adding an electric pump but for now use a hand pump.

      Bob

      On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:

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      My PO had added a hose to the bottom of the oil pan which was slightly more useful and probably just as messy as going in with a pump into the dipstick. The connection point for that is on the starboard side of the engine.
      Here's a shot of the end of that hose: http://www.flickr.com/photos/deepplaya/3260788951/
       
      -p
       


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    • #73481
      Chuck Ruble
      Participant

      Dan, the Oil Boy uses vacuum to pull the warm oil out. It works great.  It has a float that prevents it from overfilling.  Once you pump it, creating the vacuum it continues to draw for a few minutes.  The tube enters the oil sump via the dipstick hole.  I join two of the tubes together creating an arc that allows the extractor to sit next to the engine.  It has a pour spout.  Simple, well made, very effective. 

      http://www.amazon.com/Tempo-Oil-Boy-Fluid-Extractor/dp/B0000BYP0L

      On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:36 PM, kalinowski < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Has anyone with a Westerbeke 58 added an auto oil change gizmo? If so, which one? Any guidance? I haven't crawled “down under” yet and am making the blind assumption that there is a drain plug under the engine. This project has slithered up my punch list.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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    • #73564
      Anonymous

      There is an ad on e-bay for an engine that claims to be a W58 and also
      calls it a Perkins 4.154 200

      Is the W58 a Perkins 4.154 200? I had heard it was a Mitsubishi
      Industrial engine, but still have not found anyone who knows the
      Mitsubishi model number.

      Thanks,

      PEte


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    • #73566
      quent
      Participant

      Pete-
      The design is by Mazda, licensed to Perkins who used it for commercial, tractor and marine engines, but modified the Mazda design. Westerbeke bought base engines from Perkins and did their own marine conversion. There is some question of part compatability, including the head assembly between the Perkins and the Westerbeke.
      I have a dissembled W-58 in the garage. One interesting thing is that the head gasket shown in the W-58 Parts List is for the W-52, and vice versa.
      It looks like the W-52 and W-58 do not use the same injectors. I’ve not seen a Perkins 4-154.
      Quent

    • #73570
      Anonymous

      Any idea on the compatibility of the oil pan gasket?

      quent wrote:

      Pete-
      The design is by Mazda, licensed to Perkins who used it for
      commercial, tractor and marine engines, but modified the Mazda design.
      Westerbeke bought base engines from Perkins and did their own marine
      conversion. There is some question of part compatability, including
      the head assembly between the Perkins and the Westerbeke.
      I have a dissembled W-58 in the garage. One interesting thing is that
      the head gasket shown in the W-58 Parts List is for the W-52, and vice
      versa.
      It looks like the W-52 and W-58 do not use the same injectors. I’ve
      not seen a Perkins 4-154.
      Quent


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    • #73571
      Anonymous

      Any idea on the compatibility of the oil pan gasket?

      quent wrote:

      Pete-
      The design is by Mazda, licensed to Perkins who used it for
      commercial, tractor and marine engines, but modified the Mazda design.
      Westerbeke bought base engines from Perkins and did their own marine
      conversion. There is some question of part compatability, including
      the head assembly between the Perkins and the Westerbeke.
      I have a dissembled W-58 in the garage. One interesting thing is that
      the head gasket shown in the W-58 Parts List is for the W-52, and vice
      versa.
      It looks like the W-52 and W-58 do not use the same injectors. I’ve
      not seen a Perkins 4-154.
      Quent


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    • #73572
      quent
      Participant

      Hi Pete-
      No idea on the oil pan gasket. However, I did get a Mazda 4-154 gasket set off Ebay and nothing fit the W-58. The W-58 oil pan gasket is not obscenely expensive.
      The rear bearing seal is the same problematic design as the W-50 (4-108) and they use the same W part. Foley claims to have a better seal but for a lot of money. Has anyone tried it?
      Quent

    • #73573
      Anonymous

      In my mind ~$80 for an oil pan gasket is silliness and that is what I am
      seeing.

      quent wrote:

      Hi Pete-
      No idea on the oil pan gasket. However, I did get a Mazda 4-154 gasket
      set off Ebay and nothing fit the W-58. The W-58 oil pan gasket is not
      obscenely expensive.
      The rear bearing seal is the same problematic design as the W-50
      (4-108) and they use the same W part. Foley claims to have a better
      seal but for a lot of money. Has anyone tried it?
      Quent


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    • #73574
      quent
      Participant

      Pete-
      If you think the price is crazy, wait til you try installing it.
      Quent

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