Hey, Alan,

Where did you get the injectors and how much?

Bob

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:

About 150 miles out of Bermuda, we could not get the engine started (W58). We had to hand sterr the rest of the way to converve power. We sailed into the town cut in the dark with  a heavy wind and rain.
After we replaced all the filters and removed aas much water as could, We could could still not get the engine started. Ran the batteries down trying. Had to take them ashore to get them charged. several times.
Finialy I called in  a mechanic. We changed the injectors and it started right up. The old ones were destoyed. Lucky I had a spare set. They dont rebuild injectors in Bermuda so I sent them back to the states.
Lesson # 1 Carry spare injectors.
Lesson # 2 see 1 above
Lesson # 3 Don't get water in tanks.
Lesson # 4 Check racor more often when at sea or when sailing.

alan
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Alan
Do you have an O-ring on your fuel-fill cap? My boat didn’t come with one. I don’t honestly know if they are supposed to have one, but they should. I had all kinds of problems with water in the fuel until I put one under the cap. There is no reason to have any measurable water in your fuel tank. The only other entry point is the vent. I’ve been out in conditions where waves come over the stern quarter. So far I haven’t taken any water into the fuel tank but it worries me. Maybe someone makes a check-valve or the thing should be relocated to the inside of a stanchion tube.

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Lesson #5 – Carry a portable generator and some gasoline to run it so you’re not entirely dependent on your alternator to recharge. (I know, I know… solar panels, wind generator, hamsters in a cage, etc, but in light airs and overcast skies during hamster mating season you still need to recharge your batteries. Now that I’ve got an EU2000 I don’t know how I got along without it. Well, I do know. I ran the engine a lot at near-idle speed to charge up, which the mechanics all say is a no-no.)

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Have you considered adding a water sensor/alarm to your racor(s)?

Alan wrote:

About 150 miles out of Bermuda, we could not get the engine started
(W58). We had to hand sterr the rest of the way to converve power. We
sailed into the town cut in the dark with a heavy wind and rain.
After we replaced all the filters and removed aas much water as could,
We could could still not get the engine started. Ran the batteries
down trying. Had to take them ashore to get them charged. several times.
Finialy I called in a mechanic. We changed the injectors and it
started right up. The old ones were destoyed. Lucky I had a spare set.
They dont rebuild injectors in Bermuda so I sent them back to the states.
Lesson # 1 Carry spare injectors.
Lesson # 2 see 1 above
Lesson # 3 Don’t get water in tanks.
Lesson # 4 Check racor more often when at sea or when sailing.

alan
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Alan-
The fuel injectors for the W-58 also fit the W-100, maybe other Westerbekes. Several W dealer websites have the Part List numbers for these engines to compare. Injectors, new and used , occasionally show up on EBay and other sites.
Racor makes an alarm kit for their filters that detects water.
Apparently it doesn’t take much water to explode injector tips. You’re lucky that the fuel injection pump survived.
Quent

I just took my injectors from W-58 over for a rebuild. Price is $65. each. Does this sound reasonable? New are over $400 each from Westerbeke.

Rodd

$400!!! Wow!. I paid $200 in Tortola.

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Really?  Who'd you get them from?

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Joseph Steiner < ([email][/email])> wrote:

Parts and Power. December 2007

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Kudos to you Alan. That’s a tight cut to sail through, especially in wind,rain,and dark.

I puffed through on a 62′ Kanter ketch. Things were great till we got to the customs dock. While maneuvering, a puff hit us and the pulpit managed to take out a fence. The customs guy shook his head and said, “I just built that fence”. One of those moments you always remember.

Dan Kalinowski
Lady Leanne II (#135)
Honolulu

I have my engine out (W58) and am making a few changes such as putting
an oil change hand pump up front where it is easy to work with. The PO
put a Jasco hand bilge pump on the engine and it leaks a lot of oil. I
would sure like to find a brass hand pump that is up to the task. The
ones on the Beta Marine engines look great, but I can’t find one
anywhere. Any recommendations?

PS: Any one have an old W58 for parts? I’d love to have more spares.

Pete

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Hi Pete!

Try these: http://www.accentshopping.com/product.asp?P_ID=150506#
http://www.sailinginfo4all.co.uk/maintenance/pump_international.htm

Bob

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I have my engine out (W58) and am making a few changes such as putting an oil change hand pump up front where it is easy to work with.  The PO put a Jasco hand bilge pump on the engine and it leaks a lot of oil.  I would sure like to find a brass hand pump that is up to the task.  The ones on the Beta Marine engines look great, but I can't find one anywhere.  Any recommendations?

PS: Any one have an old W58 for parts?  I'd love to have more spares.

Pete

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Bob,

Thanks! The Patay A2379 from Pump International Ltd is just what I am
looking for. We’ll see if they ship to the US or have a distributor here.

Pete

Robert Fine wrote:

Hi Pete!

Try these: http://www.accentshopping.com/product.asp?P_ID=150506#
http://www.sailinginfo4all.co.uk/maintenance/pump_international.htm

Bob

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I have my engine out (W58) and am making a few changes such as
putting an oil change hand pump up front where it is easy to work
with. The PO put a Jasco hand bilge pump on the engine and it
leaks a lot of oil. I would sure like to find a brass hand pump
that is up to the task. The ones on the Beta Marine engines look
great, but I can’t find one anywhere. Any recommendations?

PS: Any one have an old W58 for parts? I’d love to have more spares.

Pete

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Hey, Pete,

You're very welcome – let me know  – I might want one.  More than that, maybe you and the other Sailor's Solutions guys can get some kind of an import deal…

Bob

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Bob,

Thanks!  The Patay A2379 from Pump International Ltd is just what I am looking for.  We'll see if they ship to the US or have a distributor here.

Pete

Robert Fine wrote:

Hi Pete!

Try these: http://www.accentshopping.com/product.asp?P_ID=150506#
http://www.sailinginfo4all.co.uk/maintenance/pump_international.htm

Bob

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   I have my engine out (W58) and am making a few changes such as
   putting an oil change hand pump up front where it is easy to work
   with.  The PO put a Jasco hand bilge pump on the engine and it
   leaks a lot of oil.  I would sure like to find a brass hand pump
   that is up to the task.  The ones on the Beta Marine engines look
   great, but I can't find one anywhere.  Any recommendations?

   PS: Any one have an old W58 for parts?  I'd love to have more spares.

   Pete

   

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Pictures of the engine pulling (on land), see the crane we made…

https://www.pearson424.org/gallery/Regina-Oceani-Engine

Robert Fine wrote:

Hey, Pete,

You’re very welcome – let me know – I might want one. More than
that, maybe you and the other Sailor’s Solutions guys can get some
kind of an import deal…

Bob

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Pete Dubler <
> wrote:

Bob,

Thanks! The Patay A2379 from Pump International Ltd is just what
I am looking for. We’ll see if they ship to the US or have a
distributor here.

Pete

Robert Fine wrote:

Hi Pete!

Try these: http://www.accentshopping.com/product.asp?P_ID=150506#
http://www.sailinginfo4all.co.uk/maintenance/pump_international.htm

Bob

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wrote:

I have my engine out (W58) and am making a few changes such as
putting an oil change hand pump up front where it is easy
to work
with. The PO put a Jasco hand bilge pump on the engine and it
leaks a lot of oil. I would sure like to find a brass hand
pump
that is up to the task. The ones on the Beta Marine
engines look
great, but I can’t find one anywhere. Any recommendations?

PS: Any one have an old W58 for parts? I’d love to have
more spares.

Pete

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