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    • #67787
      RichCarter
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      I’ve since cut out most of my engine pan as part of a repower. The engine pan was open at the bottom and had a place for water to pool behind the strut mount and behind the pan. Here’s a photo of the old pan with modified side pieces to mount my new engine.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/engPan.JPG

      There was a small space under the aft section of the pan that allowed some water to escape under the engine, but a lot of water still pooled under there. After taking this photo I cut out the back of the pan. It simply isn’t needed and interfered with the new engine.

      After repowering, I still put oilsorb sheets under the engine but they come out mostly clean at the end of the season. The old W60 was a nice engine but like most British engines it leaked like a sieve.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #74298
      petedd
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      Speaking of British engines… did you know that British engines STILL
      don’t have microprocessors (computers) controlling them? Reason: the
      Brits have not yet figured out how to make a computer leak oil…

      And yes, I have been studying your photos. Thanks.

      I am thinking of fashioning a separate drip pan for the engine and
      allowing the aft water to pass under it to the main bilge. I like to
      hat the oilsorb sheet stay dry (from water and oil…) To me that is
      the sign of a well-maintained engine space.

      Pete

      wrote:

      Quote:
      I’ve since cut out most of my engine pan as part of a repower. The
      engine pan was open at the bottom and had a place for water to pool
      behind the strut mount and behind the pan. Here’s a photo of the old
      pan with modified side pieces to mount my new engine.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/engPan.JPG

      There was a small space under the aft section of the pan that allowed
      some water to escape under the engine, but a lot of water still pooled
      under there. After taking this photo I cut out the back of the pan.
      It simply isn’t needed and interfered with the new engine.

      After repowering, I still put oilsorb sheets under the engine but they
      come out mostly clean at the end of the season. The old W60 was a
      nice engine but like most British engines it leaked like a sieve.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #74299
      petedd
      Participant

      Speaking of British engines… did you know that British engines STILL
      don’t have microprocessors (computers) controlling them? Reason: the
      Brits have not yet figured out how to make a computer leak oil…

      And yes, I have been studying your photos. Thanks.

      I am thinking of fashioning a separate drip pan for the engine and
      allowing the aft water to pass under it to the main bilge. I like to
      hat the oilsorb sheet stay dry (from water and oil…) To me that is
      the sign of a well-maintained engine space.

      Pete

      wrote:

      Quote:
      I’ve since cut out most of my engine pan as part of a repower. The
      engine pan was open at the bottom and had a place for water to pool
      behind the strut mount and behind the pan. Here’s a photo of the old
      pan with modified side pieces to mount my new engine.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/engPan.JPG

      There was a small space under the aft section of the pan that allowed
      some water to escape under the engine, but a lot of water still pooled
      under there. After taking this photo I cut out the back of the pan.
      It simply isn’t needed and interfered with the new engine.

      After repowering, I still put oilsorb sheets under the engine but they
      come out mostly clean at the end of the season. The old W60 was a
      nice engine but like most British engines it leaked like a sieve.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #74301
      john stevenson
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      Pete,
      I thought one of my repower pictures would show the water passage under the engine pan, but I guess I never took a picture from behind the engine pan.  As Rich said it is not a big passage.  I know when the Westerbecke was pulled there was a ton of dirt and debris around the passage.  Water still got through, but it did pool up behind the engine pan.
      If you say you don't have a passage under the pan, have you checked to see if it is just covered by 25 years of crud?  It really shouldn't accumulate water under the engine unless you have a gusher, but then your pan may not be anything like the one I had on hull #2.  Again I never had water accumulate under the engine (other than engine liquids) with a persistent rudder post leak for over a year before the engine pan was re-built and re-glassed.

      On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Pete Dubler < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Quote:
      Speaking of British engines… did you know that British engines STILL don't have microprocessors (computers) controlling them?  Reason: the Brits have not yet figured out how to make a computer leak oil…

      And yes, I have been studying your photos.   Thanks.

      I am thinking of fashioning a separate drip pan for the engine and allowing the aft water to pass under it to the main bilge.   I like to hat the oilsorb sheet stay dry (from water and oil…)  To me that is the sign of a well-maintained engine space.

      Pete

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      Quote:
      I've since cut out most of my engine pan as part of a repower.  The engine pan was open at the bottom and had a place for water to pool behind the strut mount and behind the pan.  Here's a photo of the old pan with modified side pieces to mount my new engine.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/engPan.JPG

      There was a small space under the aft section of the pan that allowed some water to escape under the engine, but a lot of water still pooled under there.   After taking this photo I cut out the back of the pan.  It simply isn't needed and interfered with the new engine.

      After repowering, I still put oilsorb sheets under the engine but they come out mostly clean at the end of the season.  The old W60 was a nice engine but like most British engines it leaked like a sieve.

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #74305
      Anonymous

      On our boat, hull #206 (or is it 203), there are holes in the bvrace that crosses twarthwise cross “pan” under the engine. There are holes which I peiodically have to clean out, usually with my fingers.

      Norris Larson on Easy Reach

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    • #74307
      sumocean
      Participant

      Pete

      Rather than try to fit a pan under the new engine I built a dam between the stringers on the forward end of the compartment. It is high enough to trap an oil spill but not high enough to wet the engine if it fills with water. I have to sponge it out when I have a leak at the back of the boat. I haven’t had to do that in a while. The leak that I had a time figuring out was the hinges on the sail lockers. All of them were leaking a little and I would have to sponge it out after a rain. The great thing about a new engine is all that is in there is water. The pan is coated with pigmented epoxy so it can be cleaned easily.

      Linus

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    • #74308
      petedd
      Participant

      thanks Linus

      Linus Martinez wrote:

      Quote:
      Pete

      Rather than try to fit a pan under the new engine I built a dam
      between the stringers on the forward end of the compartment. It is
      high enough to trap an oil spill but not high enough to wet the engine
      if it fills with water. I have to sponge it out when I have a leak at
      the back of the boat. I haven’t had to do that in a while. The leak
      that I had a time figuring out was the hinges on the sail lockers.
      All of them were leaking a little and I would have to sponge it out
      after a rain. The great thing about a new engine is all that is in
      there is water. The pan is coated with pigmented epoxy so it can be
      cleaned easily.

      Linus

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    • #74309
      petedd
      Participant

      Thanks Norris. Perhaps mine is plugged up as well. Still think I
      should have an isolated drip pan under the engine (but let the aft water
      pass to the main bilge)

      norris larson wrote:

      Quote:
      On our boat, hull #206 (or is it 203), there are holes in the bvrace
      that crosses twarthwise cross “pan” under the engine. There are holes
      which I peiodically have to clean out, usually with my fingers.

      Norris Larson on /Easy Reach/

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    • #74310
      petedd
      Participant

      Thanks John. When I clean out the engine pan next weekend, I will go
      digging for the lost passage. Lots of crud down there indeed. I had
      some belts go into stick and shred mode once and there is lots of rubber
      dust everywhere in there. I am looking forward to cleaning it out and
      painting it Bilgekote white.

      Pete

      John Stevenson wrote:

      Quote:
      Pete,
      I thought one of my repower pictures would show the water passage
      under the engine pan, but I guess I never took a picture from behind
      the engine pan. As Rich said it is not a big passage. I know when
      the Westerbecke was pulled there was a ton of dirt and debris around
      the passage. Water still got through, but it did pool up behind the
      engine pan.
      If you say you don’t have a passage under the pan, have you checked to
      see if it is just covered by 25 years of crud? It really shouldn’t
      accumulate water under the engine unless you have a gusher, but then
      your pan may not be anything like the one I had on hull #2. Again I
      never had water accumulate under the engine (other than engine
      liquids) with a persistent rudder post leak for over a year before the
      engine pan was re-built and re-glassed.

      On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Pete Dubler <
      > wrote:

      Speaking of British engines… did you know that British engines
      STILL don’t have microprocessors (computers) controlling them?
      Reason: the Brits have not yet figured out how to make a computer
      leak oil…

      And yes, I have been studying your photos. Thanks.

      I am thinking of fashioning a separate drip pan for the engine and
      allowing the aft water to pass under it to the main bilge. I
      like to hat the oilsorb sheet stay dry (from water and oil…) To
      me that is the sign of a well-maintained engine space.

      Pete

      wrote:

      I’ve since cut out most of my engine pan as part of a repower.
      The engine pan was open at the bottom and had a place for
      water to pool behind the strut mount and behind the pan.
      Here’s a photo of the old pan with modified side pieces to
      mount my new engine.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/pix/engPan.JPG

      There was a small space under the aft section of the pan that
      allowed some water to escape under the engine, but a lot of
      water still pooled under there. After taking this photo I
      cut out the back of the pan. It simply isn’t needed and
      interfered with the new engine.

      After repowering, I still put oilsorb sheets under the engine
      but they come out mostly clean at the end of the season. The
      old W60 was a nice engine but like most British engines it
      leaked like a sieve.

      Regards
      Rich


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