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November 24, 2009 at 10:54 pm #67811
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When I bought Morning Glory I was very surprised to learn that the anchor chain’s bitter end was not secured to anything. Had things gone badly the anchor, chain and rode would have slipped into the water and we would have been adrift in the ICW.
I have a question for the group – what is the best method of securing the bitter end to the boat? I don’t see much in the way of a sturdy structure to which I can attach a mechanical device.
Lee
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November 24, 2009 at 11:17 pm #74420
madsailor
ModeratorHi Lee,
The best possible way would be to put a padeye in the lower locker or in the floor of the upper locker. Use a backing plate. Make sure the floor is tabbed well to the hull.
Then, with the bitter end, use a cord wrapped several times between the bitter end and the chain. That will give you the most strength. Make sure the tie is long enough between the two so that you can get a sharp knife between them to cut one loop of the cord (the other reason you don't want one large line).
The reason for this is that if you ever have to release the whole mess in an emergency you won't have to saw at a line or undo a shackle. I have heard of situations where it's necessary – and in those cases the people involved were really happy to be able to release the anchor in its entirety.
The other reason for the cord is for shock control. If the anchor drops uncontrollably (oop, I really don't have a thousand feet of chain? Damn.) the cord will take up most of the shock. That's why you wrap it several times (remember, a 200lb test cord wrapped 8 times will hold 1600 lbs. – you get the idea).
That's my two cents.
In my case, the chain of the starboard anchor ends attached to the rode of the port anchor – connected by the cord. It's probably not the best solution, but I haven't gotten to the padeyes yet.
Bob
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November 25, 2009 at 12:22 am #74422
RichCarterParticipantI have a hundred-feet or so of half-inch line tied to the end of the chain. The end is tied to a shackle that’s too large to go through the windlass fairlead. Simple enough. The line isn’t intended to use as anchor rhode. Its just there in case something unexpected happens. The gypsy lock slipped once when I was not on the boat. I found her sitting about 300 feet from where I expected after dinner ashore. The line had run out to the end until the shackle took the load. I now use a chain-hook and snubber.
Rich
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November 25, 2009 at 3:48 am #74424
Phil Fontaine
ParticipantLee,
The bottom end of the brace for my anchor platform is held to the stem by four bolts. I used long bolts in the lower positions and bridged them with a short piece of chain. The bitter end of the anchor chain is shackled to the short piece. Bob Fine’s description of a piece of rope to fasten the bitter end is probably a better (safer) arrangement. I may change mine to do the same.
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November 25, 2009 at 12:40 pm #74426
madsailor
ModeratorOooo! That's a good idea! I hadn't thought about that.
Bob
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Philippe Fontaine < ([email][/email])> wrote:
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The bottom end of the brace for my anchor platform is held to the stem by four bolts. I used long bolts in the lower positions and bridged them with a short piece of chain. The bitter end of the anchor chain is shackled to the short piece. Bob Fine's description of a piece of rope to fasten the bitter end is probably a better (safer) arrangement. I may change mine to do the same.
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November 25, 2009 at 12:59 pm #74427
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Lee,
I secure those bitter ends with a simple 5″ or 6″ piece of 2×4 inside the chain locker, with a hole drilled through the middle. Feed the end of the line through the hole, tie a stop knot in it and you’re good to go. I think I even painted my blocks with some leftover liquid epoxy so they won’t rot. When the rode runs completely out the block jams at the deck pipe.
BTW, even if you have an all chain rode you should always tag on enough line at the inboard end of it to reach from the chain locker across the foredeck. If you’re ever in a desperate situation and have to cut lose from your anchor to save the boat, you’ll be screwed if it’s all chain. That line tail enables you do cut and run.
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November 25, 2009 at 1:05 pm #74428
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Ah, but now that I’ve read the rest of the thread I see you were already told about the cut line tag.
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November 25, 2009 at 1:16 pm #74429
madsailor
ModeratorOh, yes, we mentioned this but your idea is even better! No running down to the V-berth to hack at it! Brilliant! Also, extremely easy. And cheap. Damn, you da man!
Bob
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