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    • #68057
      kalinowski
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      I want to lift the deck cover to examine the condition of the seals around the forward companionway, as a new drip occurred this AM (“Boats is like chillin, dey always need suppin”….a Bahamian quote that always stuck with me). Is it as easy as just backing out the deck screws? Or are there additional hardware that you can’t see?

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75656
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      I believe the starboard forward companion way has screws from underneath as
      well. You’ll have to pull the headliner.
      The trim can be very difficult to remove.

      You should plan on sealing the exposed balsa core in this are as well. On my
      boat the trimdeck core was sealed with silicone. It’s dry, but it scares
      me. I’l be removing some core and expoxying it closed when I put it back
      together.

      -p

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      On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:54 PM, kalinowski <>wrote:

      I want to lift the deck cover to examine the condition of the seals around
      the forward companionway, as a new drip occurred this AM (“Boats is like
      chillin, dey always need suppin”….a Bahamian quote that always stuck with
      me). Is it as easy as just backing out the deck screws? Or are there
      additional hardware that you can’t see?

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

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      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #75657
      Anonymous

      Dan,

      As I recall (because it’s been a couple of years at least since I messed
      with that hatch), the midship companionway sea hood comes off simply by
      removing the screws on deck. Then you have access to the runners underneath.
      I didn’t remove them – I was just replacing the plastic slides at the time –
      so I’m not sure how they’re fastened, but once you’re looking at them it
      should be obvious.

      FYI, my midship hatch does not seal along its after edge when it’s fully
      closed. The first time I took green water over it, the seawater poured in! I
      stuffed some rags or something into the crevice between the hatch and the
      coaming and that alleviated the problem for the duration of that blow, but
      the gap remains. Figuring out a seal for it is on one of my to-do lists.

      PS: I know “midship” isn’t a real word, but I like it.

      Tor
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    • #75658
      unabated
      Participant

      Tor,
      No boat…. nothing better to do…

      midship [ˈmɪdˌʃɪp] Nauticaladj (Transport / Nautical Terms) in, of, or relating to
      the middle of a vesseln
      (Transport / Nautical Terms) the middle of a vessel

      Alan

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    • #75659
      Anonymous

      Ah-HA! I am absolved! I thought I’d made it up – because sometimes “amidships” just doesn’t apply.

      Thanks,

      Tor
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    • #75660
      unabated
      Participant

      amid·ships (ə mid′s̸hips′)adverb, adjective in or toward the
      middle of a ship; esp., halfway between bow and stern

      write(‘Webster’s New World College Dictionary Copyright © 2010 by Wiley Publishing, Inc., Cleveland, Ohio.
      Used by arrangement with John Wiley & Sons, Inc.’);
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      New World College Dictionary

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    • #75661
      unabated
      Participant

      I am trying to figure out what people who don’t own boats do on Friday nights….. I know… I need a life…..
      a

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    • #75663
      kalinowski
      Participant

      They look at the exceptional moon rising over Diamond Head tonight and dream of sailing away (if they’re enlightened).

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75664
      Anonymous

      If it’s that beautiful, why leave? Sounds like the kind of place we’re all
      trying to sail away TO.

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    • #75666
      kalinowski
      Participant

      There’s empty slips in my marina on Ke’ehi Lagoon. As they say in JoJa, “Y’all come on down”.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75667
      Anonymous

      OK.

      What’s JoJa?

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    • #75668
      Anonymous

      Never mind. The coffee just kicked in and I got it.

      Tor
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    • #75669
      kalinowski
      Participant

      Aloha Tor:

      I just read your blog. If you’re going to Panama, you should visit Bocas del Toro on the Carib side. Lots of islands, funky little towns, safe, cheap. It’s like Venice in that almost all is done by boat.

      We chartered a house boat down here (only craft available) and fell in love with it. So we bought some property on Isla Solarte (cheap).

      Worth the effort to get there.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Konolulu

    • #75670
      Anonymous

      Thanks for the pointer, Dan. In fact, Bocas is exactly where I’m headed
      (after the San Blas), more or less in tandem with a an old sailing buddy,
      Ray Jason, aboard his sloop, Aventura. Ray, who writes quite a bit for
      Latitude 38, SAIL and others, spent a couple of years hanging around there
      and has been trying to lure me down for years. Now I’ll finally get to see
      it for myself. I hear nothing but good things from other cruisers.

      Tor
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    • #75671
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Dan
      There’s nothing special there. Just be sure to caulk the fasteners when you put them back in. Here’s some useful information.
      http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/deckRot/

      Regards
      Rich


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    • #75672
      kalinowski
      Participant

      Thanks for the info. I always want to get some info before I tear stuff apart (I’ve learned to temper my enthusiasm).

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu

    • #75687
      Anonymous

      This is a common problem. Afew years ago the most famous 424 owner(dead) sent infromation on how to build a better seal for this hatch. I think I have that information, but unfortunately the boat is in Trinidad and I am in Ohio until next year. The Ownwers Association office should have it. Jim

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    • #75688
      Anonymous

      This is a common problem. Afew years ago the most famous 424 owner(dead) sent infromation on how to build a better seal for this hatch. I think I have that information, but unfortunately the boat is in Trinidad and I am in Ohio until next year. The Ownwers Association office should have it. Jim

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    • #75689
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Who is the famous dead owner?
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      Bob Fine
      s/v Pelican
      Pearson 424 Hull #8
      http://thesailinglife.blogspot.com
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    • #75690
      john stevenson
      Participant

      I assume he meant Hal Sutphen. The solution was to use weather stripping to
      seal the sides of the hatch. It has worked for me for 8 years, but just
      before I left the boat 3 weeks agoI noticed the hatch was leaking again.
      Time re-bed and replace the stripping.

      On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

      Who is the famous dead owner?
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    • #75693
      RichCarter
      Participant

      I assume we mean Ed. Merrick. Ed was a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure we all miss him. I remember the discussion. I searched through my email archive and could not find it.

      I did something similar but not quite as elegant. It seems to work for me, but I’m sure his solution was better. The biggest improvement came from fixing the leaks under the hatch frame. Keeping the water from getting under the hatch slide is of little help if it leaks under the frame.

      Rich


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    • #75694
      madsailor
      Moderator

      The biggest issue with that frame is to keep the drain holes clear –
      standing water inside the outboard runner will eventually go somewhere and
      not somewhere good.

      There could be more and bigger freeing holes on them.

      Bob

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      I assume we mean Ed. Merrick. Ed was a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure we
      all miss him. I remember the discussion. I searched through my email archive
      and could not find it.

      I did something similar but not quite as elegant. It seems to work for me,
      but I’m sure his solution was better. The biggest improvement came from
      fixing the leaks under the hatch frame. Keeping the water from getting under
      the hatch slide is of little help if it leaks under the frame.

      Rich


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    • #75695
      Anonymous

      Hal Sutphen is correct and he had nice drawings on how to do this and it worked great. I also made a canvas cover and canvas enclosure fro that hatch which helps a lot. Jim Roberts

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