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    • #68064
      Anonymous

      Last summer I had a belt-like screeching noise which developed into a belt
      issue and a lousy alternator issue. Never figured out if the belt ruined the
      alternator or vice versa except the alternator was shot after ten years and
      over 1500 hours of use. I replaced the alternator with a new one and all is
      now well. After little use this season, now heavy use, the belt screech has
      returned. It is not constant, but at start up at all, and then low, RPM,
      then it goes away.

      SO here is my question, is there an accessory case on the engine with a
      pulley that drives the alternator belt? Should I be looking at that pad for
      bearings and grease? All ideas welcomed.

      Thatcher A. Stone

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    • #75698
      Anonymous

      I had that problem/symptom a couple of years ago.  The solution was to make sure
      to use a lock washer on the bolt that holds the alternator to the bracket on the
      engine. The belt tension can be affected by a slight movement of the alternator
      as well as normal wear and stretching of the belt. Check the belt tension and
      tighten if necessary.

      That screetching sound is very annoying…good luck.

      Joe,
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    • #75699
      Anonymous

      Thatcher,

      Sounds like a loose belt. Tighten it a bit and the start-up screeching
      should be gone. My uneducated guess is the alternator failure was
      coincidental, not related to the previous loose belt.

      Good luck,

      Tor
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    • #75700
      Anonymous

      Ooo, a lock washer sounds like a very good idea. I just had to tighten my
      belt because it started screeching a little at start-up. Bet the lock washer
      would prevent it from recurring.

      Thanks,

      Tor
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    • #75701
      unabated
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      The screeching noise is for sure the belt. The Alternator failure is from the heat  that  is generated  from the belt being loose. When the belt slips across the pulley all the heat is transmitted to the shaft.
      Besides ALWAYS keeping the belt tight (but not so tight as to ruin the bearing either on the alternator itself or the water pump) one thing I added to my system is a new 3 stage regulator. The one I got has a 30 second delay before it turns the alternator on AND it ramps up the current slowly. This way you don’t slam the system with cranking out 100 amps right at the start. It gives the belt a  chance to warm up a little and get seated.
      It seams to have reduced the number of times I need to get in there and tighten it up.
      Alan

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    • #75702
      Anonymous

      Joe, thanks!


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    • #75703
      Anonymous

      Tor, thank you! I agree, the old alternator just went.


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    • #75704
      Anonymous

      Alan, thank you!


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    • #75705
      RichCarter
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      Thatcher
      There are a number of things that can cause your belt to wear. One of them
      is old age. Both the alternator and belt are service items and must be
      serviced at a regular interval. Once the belt starts slipping, it will
      burnish and won’t grab the pulleys well from that moment on. A burnished
      belt should be changed and not overtightened. Here are some tips.

      Belts come in three flavors, no notch, notch on the outside and notch on the
      inside. The notches are for cooling the belt. Ignore the first type. Don’t
      use them. For the other two, one is designed to take a shock load and the
      other is designed to wear well. The first type is thinner. It avoids damage
      when subjected to a shock load by slipping slightly. They usually come with
      ribs on the outside to provide better cooling. They tend to wear out
      quicker, but rarely snap. Use this type if you have an oversized alternator.
      When the regulator switches into high charge, it will put a shock-load on
      the alternator belt. The other flavor has a thicker construction and slips
      less. These belts frequently have ribs on the inside. Since they have more
      surface area in contact with the sheave, they don’t slip as easily. When
      subjected to a shock load, they may snap.

      Belt tension must be maintained properly. Too much tension can cause
      premature wear of the alternator or water-pump bearings. It can also cause
      a failure of your engine crankshaft. Too little tension can cause the belts
      to wear. I tension my belts until there is about the same amount of play as
      the belt thickness when I press down on the belt. I use a tensioning tool
      to make the adjustment.

      The pulleys must be in alignment with each other. A bent alternator or
      water pump bracket can cause the belts to wear unevenly.

      Don’t overtighten the alternator rack bolt. A proper bolt, nut, and
      lock-washer shouldn’t allow the alternator to slip in the rack.

      Belts must be of the proper size for their load. If you retrofit a
      high-capacity alternator, your stock pulleys may not be large enough. This
      can cause you to overtighten the belts to keep them from slipping. If you
      have this problem consider adjusting your regulator max charge setting if it
      has one.

      If you have everything setup properly, you won’t have belt-dust on the
      accessory end of the engine.

      Rich

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    • #75711
      Anonymous

      Rich, Thanks. You are always knowledgeable and helpful. Appreciated.


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    • #75712
      joe shimkonis
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      http://pradkentacoocanopconspermore.yourpillsworld.net

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