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    • #68100
      unabated
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      All of my manuals are on the boat, many miles from here. I have a question about the gear ratio on the original V Drive installed with the W58. What is the gear ration of the -20 and what is the gear ratio of the -26 the replacement for the original.
      I am thinking of replacing the V Drive. At the same time, I need to have my prop repaired. I need to find out if I can keep the pitch or will I need to have it re-pitched when I put in the  new V Drive ( if the ratio is different).
      Thanks
      alan

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    • #75804
      Paul Lefebvre
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      Hi Alan:

      I am sure Rich will comment, but here is the link to his discussion about going from the RV-20 to the RV-26.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html

      Based on his discussion about propeller selection, I got the impression you can order any gear ratio you want from Walter.

      Paul

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    • #75805
      john stevenson
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      Alan,
      I just replaced my 20 with a 26, and Paul is correct there was no change in
      the ratio. The yard did re-pitch my Maxprop because they believe it was
      pitched too high. The one gotcha was the jack shaft. The 26 requires a
      jack shaft that is 7/8″ shorter than that of the 20. For me that meant a
      new jack shaft. I think Rich did the v-drive at the same time he re-powered
      and positioned his new engine such that he could re-use the 20 jack shaft.
      Walter thinks very highly of their jack shafts. I think mine coast $1,700.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Lefebvre
      <>wrote:

      Hi Alan:

      I am sure Rich will comment, but here is the link to his discussion about
      going from the RV-20 to the RV-26.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html

      Based on his discussion about propeller selection, I got the impression you
      can order any gear ratio you want from Walter.

      Paul

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    • #75806
      unabated
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      1700 for a new jack shaft?…. that’s not highway robbery…. that’s rape……. anyway around that… beside moving the engine?
      alan

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    • #75808
      madsailor
      Moderator

      The jackshaft is variable length for just that reason – the two bolts on the
      clamp are for moving the solid portion into the hollow one. If you needed a
      longer one, that could be a problem, but a machine shop could make a new
      insert, I’m sure for a couple hundred.

      Bob

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Stevenson
      <>wrote:

      Alan,
      I just replaced my 20 with a 26, and Paul is correct there was no change in
      the ratio. The yard did re-pitch my Maxprop because they believe it was
      pitched too high. The one gotcha was the jack shaft. The 26 requires a
      jack shaft that is 7/8″ shorter than that of the 20. For me that meant a
      new jack shaft. I think Rich did the v-drive at the same time he
      re-powered
      and positioned his new engine such that he could re-use the 20 jack shaft.
      Walter thinks very highly of their jack shafts. I think mine coast $1,700.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Lefebvre
      <>wrote:

      Hi Alan:

      I am sure Rich will comment, but here is the link to his discussion about
      going from the RV-20 to the RV-26.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html

      Based on his discussion about propeller selection, I got the impression

      you

      can order any gear ratio you want from Walter.

      Paul

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    • #75809
      john stevenson
      Participant

      Bob,
      Unfortunately to shorten the jack shaft the tube must be shortened not the
      insert. I don’t remember the reason we didn’t modify the tube, but I
      believe that was not practical or wouldn’t have saved enough to make it the
      preferred approach. If I could have avoided purchasing a new shaft I
      certainly would have done so, and the yard would have made more money
      selling me machine shop services rather than a new shaft (I was on the
      Bertram delivery and didn’t have the option of shopping the work out
      myself).
      Alan,
      Good luck with your installation. No two Pearson’s are exactly alike (e.g.,
      the W60 vrs the W58) so the old jack shaft may still work for you. For your
      sake I hope the advice I got from my installer was incorrect and you can
      modify the shaft if it does not fit.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

      The jackshaft is variable length for just that reason – the two bolts on
      the
      clamp are for moving the solid portion into the hollow one. If you needed
      a
      longer one, that could be a problem, but a machine shop could make a new
      insert, I’m sure for a couple hundred.

      Bob

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Stevenson
      <>wrote:

      Alan,
      I just replaced my 20 with a 26, and Paul is correct there was no change

      in

      the ratio. The yard did re-pitch my Maxprop because they believe it was
      pitched too high. The one gotcha was the jack shaft. The 26 requires a
      jack shaft that is 7/8″ shorter than that of the 20. For me that meant a
      new jack shaft. I think Rich did the v-drive at the same time he
      re-powered
      and positioned his new engine such that he could re-use the 20 jack

      shaft.

      Walter thinks very highly of their jack shafts. I think mine coast

      $1,700.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Lefebvre
      <>wrote:

      Hi Alan:

      I am sure Rich will comment, but here is the link to his discussion

      about

      going from the RV-20 to the RV-26.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html

      Based on his discussion about propeller selection, I got the impression

      you

      can order any gear ratio you want from Walter.

      Paul

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    • #75810
      quent
      Participant

      Alan-
      We replaced just the solid splined shaft. The problem was that the shaft was rusted and the oil seal would not work properly against the rough shaft. I don’t remember what we paid Walter, but apparently there was no real sticker shock. It was a bear to get the jack shaft apart, but we did it with a vice, sledge hammer and lots of PB Blaster.
      We were only interested in duplicating the original length, so I can’t comment on how much adjustment is possible. Incidently, the U-joints at the transmission end were totally frozen.
      Quent
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    • #75812
      unabated
      Participant

      Thanks for the info guys.
      It’s raining here and I am trying to figure out what I am going to need when I get down to Virginia.
      I got the esitmate for the damage done when we hauled UNABATED. So far it’s around 4200 +/- 15%. (not including posible new shaft or prop). That’s for the insurance company. Now I am trying to figure out how much I can do myself…… All of it, if the boat was here and not 1000 miles away!
      alan
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    • #75813
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi John,

      Maybe my jackshaft isn’t like yours – it looks as if I could shorten it
      around 6″ before I have a problem. If the clampy-thing doesn’t do what I
      think it does, then of course, I’m wrong. I’m not sure how much I could
      extend it, either. I have seen this arrangement in other machinery (like
      farming machinery) where the tube is quite hollow and that extension moves
      pretty far in either direction.

      Bob

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:05 PM, John Stevenson
      <>wrote:

      Bob,
      Unfortunately to shorten the jack shaft the tube must be shortened not the
      insert. I don’t remember the reason we didn’t modify the tube, but I
      believe that was not practical or wouldn’t have saved enough to make it the
      preferred approach. If I could have avoided purchasing a new shaft I
      certainly would have done so, and the yard would have made more money
      selling me machine shop services rather than a new shaft (I was on the
      Bertram delivery and didn’t have the option of shopping the work out
      myself).
      Alan,
      Good luck with your installation. No two Pearson’s are exactly alike
      (e.g.,
      the W60 vrs the W58) so the old jack shaft may still work for you. For
      your
      sake I hope the advice I got from my installer was incorrect and you can
      modify the shaft if it does not fit.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:

      The jackshaft is variable length for just that reason – the two bolts on
      the
      clamp are for moving the solid portion into the hollow one. If you

      needed

      a
      longer one, that could be a problem, but a machine shop could make a new
      insert, I’m sure for a couple hundred.

      Bob

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Stevenson
      <>wrote:

      Alan,
      I just replaced my 20 with a 26, and Paul is correct there was no

      change

      in

      the ratio. The yard did re-pitch my Maxprop because they believe it

      was

      pitched too high. The one gotcha was the jack shaft. The 26 requires

      a

      jack shaft that is 7/8″ shorter than that of the 20. For me that meant

      a

      new jack shaft. I think Rich did the v-drive at the same time he
      re-powered
      and positioned his new engine such that he could re-use the 20 jack

      shaft.

      Walter thinks very highly of their jack shafts. I think mine coast

      $1,700.

      On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Paul Lefebvre
      <>wrote:

      Hi Alan:

      I am sure Rich will comment, but here is the link to his discussion

      about

      going from the RV-20 to the RV-26.

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html

      Based on his discussion about propeller selection, I got the

      impression

      you

      can order any gear ratio you want from Walter.

      Paul

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      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
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    • #75814
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Alan
      The RV-20 had a 2:1 gear reduction. You can order the RV-26 any way you
      want, including a 2:1 gear reduction.
      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/Vdrive.html
      Rich

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    • #75815
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Alan
      You can reuse the jack shaft but the splined shaft must be replace. It’s a
      bear to pull the old splined shaft from the old jack-shaft. Its all in my
      notes.

      Rich

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