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    • #68180
      kalinowski
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      FYI All

      While reviewing bilge pump options for Lady Leanne, I ran across a company called Fast Flow Pumps. They manufacture a pump that runs from the drive shaft and can dump 24,000 gph overboard at 2,000 rpm. The thing is maintenance free and comes in two pieces that bolt together around the shaft, so there is no need to pull the shaft. It is guaranteed for life.

      The intake is always lying in the bilge and ready to go. In fact, it runs whenever the engine is on and pumps hot engine air and fumes overboard when it (hopefully never) is not pumping water. The unit for a 1.5″ shaft costs $600. The guy said he has done a bad job of promoting to the marine trade.

      Im sold if it fits into the area around the shaft. He said it has a 6″ diameter. http://www.fastflowpumps.com

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu/Atlanta

    • #76287
      quent
      Participant

      Dan-
      A couple questios:
      Is it self priming or does the water level have to reach the driveshaft?.
      There is a 2 to1 reduction in the v-drive so assuming the pump is on the prop shaft end, what is the output at 1,000 RPM (2,000 at the engine)?

      Quent
      Clairebuoyant, #134

    • #76289
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Dan
      As you probably know, the output shaft runs at about 1000 RPM max. Pumping
      12000 gph isn’t bad, but there isn’t much room between the input and output
      shafts. Even if you could squeeze it in there, I think it will get in the
      way when you try to do regular maintenance.

      Rich

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    • #76290
      kalinowski
      Participant

      Yes, the big question is will it fit? I do like those big GPH numbers though. I’ll know more when I’m back aboard. There is a lot of data for the pump on the website.

      Dan Kalinowski
      Lady Leanne II (#135)
      Honolulu/Atlanta

    • #76291
      Anonymous

      Dan,

      The 6″ diameter Fast Flow Pump will surely fit, and you’ll have the higher
      RPM’s to drive it. I installed a 7″ diameter Shaft Lok on my jack shaft. Had
      to cut a mini-hatch above the space to access it, though.

      I can envision lots of circumstances in which you could need a high capacity
      bilge pump, but not need the propeller spinning. My guess is that in some
      notable percentage of all bilge flooding situations this shaft-driven pump
      would be unusable because it requires the propeller to be spinning. That
      doesn’t mean you shouldn’t install it. Just have a Plan B for pumping out a
      full bilge while the boat is stationary, such as at anchor or aground. Here
      are a few possibilities in addition to the primary electric bilge pump and
      the manual pump in the cockpit:

      1) A second (remote, not submersed) high-capacity electric bilge pump
      2) Y-valves to instantly switch the following *intakes to the bilge:
      – raw water engine cooling intake
      – holding tank discharge pump
      – deck wash-down pump
      – toilet pump
      – any other saltwater pump aboard
      3) At least 2 buckets

      *All of these intakes can be switched over through one or two Y-valves (from
      one or two hoses) if you’ve installed a seawater intake manifold.

      Tor



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    • #76300
      Chuck Ruble
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      It appears the intake is the shaft opening in pump housing. I don’t see an inlet where you would attach a hose. This makes sense as it is always running, indicating it is a hydrodynamic pump, not hydrostatic. It won’t prime until it is underwater.
      You’d need to build some sort of shelf to mount it on. Getting that in the right spot should prove tricky. I’d do it in the water, it won’t be in the same spot on the hard. It will have to match the angle of the shaft as well. I’d make it a little short and shim the pump housing to the proper height and angle. Good luck working in that area under the output shaft, besides the port cockpit scupper through hull, I can’t think of a more inaccessible location on the boat.

      Chuck

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