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    • #68273
      petedd
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      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly
      good-priced source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy
      just half oval solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but
      everything I have found so far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like
      160 feet in order to do the toe and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76829
      madsailor
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      Hey, Pete,

      Usually the rub rail (since bronze went out of style) is not solid – it’s a
      stamped or rolled product with the holes already drilled. It’s far less
      expensive and not so heavy, either. Let me see if I can find a source for
      it.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76831
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76833
      petedd
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      Bob,

      I am trying to get away from the “hollow-back” stuff since that dents
      compared to the solid stuff. I have a bit of the solid stuff on my
      boat (well actually on the ground right now) and it looks brand new.
      The hollow stuff on the other hand, not so much…

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:51 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hey, Pete,

      Usually the rub rail (since bronze went out of style) is not solid – it’s a
      stamped or rolled product with the holes already drilled. It’s far less
      expensive and not so heavy, either. Let me see if I can find a source for
      it.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76834
      petedd
      Participant

      Yup. I know rexmar but their solid rail prices are still very high.
      You are right, that the hollow is much cheaper.

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:54 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76841
      Anonymous

      What if you took the hollow stuff and resin or epoxy filled to make it solid? Would still be lighter than half round ss and could be drilled more easily. A bit of work to fill but maybe less $$

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
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      On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Yup. I know rexmar but their solid rail prices are still very high. You are right, that the hollow is much cheaper.

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:54 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76842
      petedd
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      Interesting idea. I might try that and if I do, I will report back.

      On 3/6/2011 5:56 AM, S V Navasana wrote:

      What if you took the hollow stuff and resin or epoxy filled to make it solid? Would still be lighter than half round ss and could be drilled more easily. A bit of work to fill but maybe less $$

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Yup. I know rexmar but their solid rail prices are still very high. You are right, that the hollow is much cheaper.

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:54 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76843
      Anonymous

      Ideally we dont bump into anything – ha!

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
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      On Mar 6, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Interesting idea. I might try that and if I do, I will report back.

      On 3/6/2011 5:56 AM, S V Navasana wrote:

      What if you took the hollow stuff and resin or epoxy filled to make it solid? Would still be lighter than half round ss and could be drilled more easily. A bit of work to fill but maybe less $$

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Yup. I know rexmar but their solid rail prices are still very high. You are right, that the hollow is much cheaper.

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:54 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76844
      petedd
      Participant

      yes, ha indeed!

      I had to use a spring line and radius around a piling to back into my
      slip at my last marina. I do like this technique and it depends on good
      rub rails.

      Pete

      On 3/6/2011 8:13 AM, S V Navasana wrote:

      Ideally we dont bump into anything – ha!

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Mar 6, 2011, at 8:08 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Interesting idea. I might try that and if I do, I will report back.

      On 3/6/2011 5:56 AM, S V Navasana wrote:

      What if you took the hollow stuff and resin or epoxy filled to make it solid? Would still be lighter than half round ss and could be drilled more easily. A bit of work to fill but maybe less $$

      Eric Lorentzon
      EFI Sales Development Manager
      412.352.1941
      Sent from my iPhone

      On Mar 5, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Yup. I know rexmar but their solid rail prices are still very high. You are right, that the hollow is much cheaper.

      Pete

      On 3/5/2011 7:54 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      Hi Pete,

      Check this out:

      http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=stainless-rubrail

      I think it’s what you’re looking for and it’s fairly reasonably priced.
      They also make the end caps.

      Bob

      On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Bob’s mention of Vulcan Metals reminded me to ask our illustrious and
      well-connected group if any of you are aware of a particularly good-priced
      source of solid 1″ stainless rub rail. I am willing to buy just half oval
      solid stock and drill it myself on my mill, but everything I have found so
      far is out-of-sight pricewise. I need like 160 feet in order to do the toe
      and rub rails.

      Thanks,

      Pete

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    • #76845
      Anonymous

      Pete,

      I understand using a spring line to back around a piling, but what do
      you mean when you say you used a radius?

      Tor


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    • #76846
      petedd
      Participant

      Pull boat up beside the piling at the end of the slip, at 90 degrees to
      the slip. Loop line around piling one end tied to aft cleat the other
      end free to control through a cleat horn for friction. Prop in reverse
      pulls the boat around the the piling (ie a turning the boat in a radius
      around the piling). Letting the line out at the right rate lets the
      boat slide into the slip.

      On 3/6/2011 8:27 AM, Silverheels wrote:

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      Pete,

      I understand using a spring line to back around a piling, but what do
      you mean when you say you used a radius?

      Tor


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    • #76847
      RichCarter
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      Pete
      I assume you know what you’d be getting yourself into by drilling your own
      holes. Sounds like a lot of work. Even thin stainless is a bitch to drill.

      About denting the hollow-back stuff. If you bump something, you’ll likely
      dent or bend it it anyway (ask me how I know). I think you might be better
      off getting the cheaper hollow-back stuff and get an extra piece or two to
      replace anything you damage.

      Defender has the solid stuff for $140/12 feet, but you probably know that.

      Rich

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    • #76848
      Anonymous

      Ah, when you wrote, “I had to use a spring line and radius around a
      piling,” I took “radius” to be a noun. Hadn’t heard it used as a verb
      before, but now understand it to mean “pivot” in this case. Learning
      everyday.

      Thanks,

      Tor


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    • #76849
      Anonymous

      I had to learn that trick by trial and error when I was in Morehead City. The
      tides and wind can make backing into a slip a real nightmare with a single screw
      and keel.
      But my view on rub rails is that I would definitely stick with wood, like the
      original design. I have a thin steel cap over teak. Why?
      Because wood is softer than fiberglass and fiberglass is softer than steel.
       When subject to forces higher than the tensile strength of fiberglass, it’s
      better to have the wood collapse than the fiberglass. With steel, the fiberglass
      would be the one getting damaged.

      My two cents worth…..

      Joe,

       

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