I replaced Morning Glory’s lifelines with un-coated 1/4 lines from WM. Bob Fine
suggested both the size and the un-coated lines because the larger line is a
little more body friendly when you bounce into it and the lack of a coating
allows you to see if they are beginning to fail. Made sense to me. An added
benefit is the appearance – the un-coated lifelines look better to me.

I also replaced all of the stanchions on the boat with 31 inch units from
Garhauer. I also added one additional stanchion per side. (The Admiral is not
very sure footed and I wanted to keep her on the boat.) This necessitated
filling all of the existing stanchion holes and drilling new ones. I think the
final process worked out pretty well.

Lee

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I went with 1/4″ amsteel synthetic line. It allowed me to splice my own lines to size and get away from steel.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
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On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Alan wrote:

I need to replace the lifelines on UNABATED.
Question: has any one swapped out the coated lines with un-coated wire? What size did you go with and how to you like them?

Right now my life lines are 3/16 wire with 5/16 coating. Was going to replace with 1/4 uncoated wire – but it’ just “looks” too small .
Alan

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SOLAS and the ORC both require uncoated lines for offshore use and racing.
I’ve changed mine to uncoated, and now that I know how to use my swager, I
can make new ones at will. I made the mistake of using the Suncor
mechanical fittings, which are ok, but not very pretty, especially since the
internal wedge isn’t corrosion resistant. They recommend using silicone when
putting together. And now that I have an account with Hayn, I get a really
good discount on fittings. With the hydraulic swager, it takes only a little
bit longer to do lines than the mechanical fittings.

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 26, 2011 10:51 AM, “Lee Yonkers” wrote:

I replaced Morning Glory’s lifelines with un-coated 1/4 lines from WM. Bob

Fine

suggested both the size and the un-coated lines because the larger line is

a

little more body friendly when you bounce into it and the lack of a

coating

allows you to see if they are beginning to fail. Made sense to me. An

added

benefit is the appearance – the un-coated lifelines look better to me.

I also replaced all of the stanchions on the boat with 31 inch units from
Garhauer. I also added one additional stanchion per side. (The Admiral is

not

very sure footed and I wanted to keep her on the boat.) This necessitated
filling all of the existing stanchion holes and drilling new ones. I think

the

I like the idea of amsteel, but I’m afraid of their longevity, and how
they’ll last at friction points.

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 26, 2011 11:24 AM, “S V Navasana” wrote:

I went with 1/4″ amsteel synthetic line. It allowed me to splice my own

lines to size and get away from steel.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Alan wrote:

I need to replace the lifelines on UNABATED.
Question: has any one swapped out the coated lines with un-coated wire?

What size did you go with and how to you like them?

Right now my life lines are 3/16 wire with 5/16 coating. Was going to

replace with 1/4 uncoated wire – but it’ just “looks” too small .

Alan

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Old 5/16 shroud wire from we rerigged her. Used old Norsemen fittings, lashed the ends. Put new Staylocs on the rig. A little heavy for lifelines, but almost free. Spare shrouds in an emergency.
Quent

Timely, as our starboard top lifeline just broke during haulout. Glad it wasn’t during crisis cause the water is chilly up here. Will go with bare wire as thick as will fit. 1/4 seems small to the hand.

Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there a
way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

Linus

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I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set up on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.
The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is the hardware is reusable in this set up.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

Recoat? With what?

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM, “dave jones” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is

new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set up
on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.

The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is

the hardware is reusable in this set up.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez”

wrote:

Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there

a way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

Hi Bob,

Our lines are Samson Amsteel Blue and were factory coated with what they
call “Samathane” a Polyurethane coating for uv and abrasion protection.
Over time this coating wears, you can see the line color fade. Samson
does not offer this coating aftermarket but it turns out that Yale
does. Its a water based urethane which they call Maxijacket. We found
it at Annapolis Performance Sailing. Application is easy if somewhat messy.

Dave

On 4/28/11 6:26 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Recoat? With what?

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM, “dave jones” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is

new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set up
on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.

The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is

the hardware is reusable in this set up.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez”

wrote:

Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there

a way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

Huh. I would have never guessed. On another tack, instead of carrying a
bunch of cable as emergency rigging, I have 200 feet of 5/16″ and 200 feet
of 3/8″ Amsteel line. My local rigger showed me how to do the eyes and
splices and I think that’s all I need. I can swage cable, but the line is
much lighter…

Bob

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, dave jones wrote:

Hi Bob,

Our lines are Samson Amsteel Blue and were factory coated with what they
call “Samathane” a Polyurethane coating for uv and abrasion protection.
Over time this coating wears, you can see the line color fade. Samson does
not offer this coating aftermarket but it turns out that Yale does. Its a
water based urethane which they call Maxijacket. We found it at Annapolis
Performance Sailing. Application is easy if somewhat messy.

Dave

On 4/28/11 6:26 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Recoat? With what?

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM, “dave jones” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is

new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set

up
on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.

The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is
the hardware is reusable in this set up.

Eric Lorentzon

EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez”

wrote:

Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there

a way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

You may have seen this site already, but if not check out
http://www.colligomarine.com/Colligo-Synthetic-Systems, they are a
wealth of info on Dyneema lines and rigging systems.

Dave

On 4/28/11 8:01 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Huh. I would have never guessed. On another tack, instead of carrying a
bunch of cable as emergency rigging, I have 200 feet of 5/16″ and 200 feet
of 3/8″ Amsteel line. My local rigger showed me how to do the eyes and
splices and I think that’s all I need. I can swage cable, but the line is
much lighter…

Bob

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, dave jones wrote:

Hi Bob,

Our lines are Samson Amsteel Blue and were factory coated with what they
call “Samathane” a Polyurethane coating for uv and abrasion protection.
Over time this coating wears, you can see the line color fade. Samson does
not offer this coating aftermarket but it turns out that Yale does. Its a
water based urethane which they call Maxijacket. We found it at Annapolis
Performance Sailing. Application is easy if somewhat messy.

Dave

On 4/28/11 6:26 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Recoat? With what?

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM, “dave jones” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is

new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set

up
on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.

The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is
the hardware is reusable in this set up.
Eric Lorentzon

EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez”

wrote:
Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there

a way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

Linus

That is what I carry for spare rigging too.

Eric Lorentzon
EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Huh. I would have never guessed. On another tack, instead of carrying a
bunch of cable as emergency rigging, I have 200 feet of 5/16″ and 200 feet
of 3/8″ Amsteel line. My local rigger showed me how to do the eyes and
splices and I think that’s all I need. I can swage cable, but the line is
much lighter…

Bob

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:58 AM, dave jones wrote:

Hi Bob,

Our lines are Samson Amsteel Blue and were factory coated with what they
call “Samathane” a Polyurethane coating for uv and abrasion protection.
Over time this coating wears, you can see the line color fade. Samson does
not offer this coating aftermarket but it turns out that Yale does. Its a
water based urethane which they call Maxijacket. We found it at Annapolis
Performance Sailing. Application is easy if somewhat messy.

Dave

On 4/28/11 6:26 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Recoat? With what?

Bob

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Apr 27, 2011 11:35 PM, “dave jones” wrote:

Ours have been in use for three years (removed and stored in the
winter). We’ve seen no signs of wear at the stanchions and the only
maintenance is to re-coat the line each year.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

On 4/27/11 10:02 PM, S V Navasana wrote:

I added a chafe sleeve where they pass through the stanchions. This is

new for me this year so can’t answer the long term. A friend has this set

up
on his boat and wear has been more from hanging fenders on his.

The lines are supposed to be replaced at 3 year interval. Nice thing is
the hardware is reusable in this set up.

Eric Lorentzon

EFI Sales Development Manager
412.352.1941
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:50 PM, “Linus Martinez”

wrote:

Do the synthetic lines chaff in the hole in the stanchions? Or is there

a way to protect them where they pass through the hole.

instead of carrying a bunch of cable as emergency rigging…

Wow, Bob, that’s smart!

Tor

Hey, Tor, I showed you that in Beaufort NC. I think you had the same
comment…

🙂

Bob

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Silverheels wrote:

instead of carrying a bunch of cable as emergency rigging…

Wow, Bob, that’s smart!

Tor

You were in Beaufort?

just kidding 🙂

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