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January 19, 2013 at 2:28 pm #68667
cstewart
ParticipantThanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.
Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought, simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the world do you get inside the pedestal?
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January 19, 2013 at 2:38 pm #79129
Anonymous
Charlie,
You get in from the top by removing the compass. Be sure you only loosen
the 2 or 3 screws that hold the compass to the pedestal, and not all of
the screws around the perimeter. Unscrewing the latter releases the
globe and allows all of the compass fluid to spill out. (Guess how I
know this.)Tor
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January 19, 2013 at 2:40 pm #79130
john stevensonParticipantIf you have the standard Edson pedestal with which most p424 were equipped,
remove the compass and you will have access to the inside of the pedestal
from the top.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM, cstewart wrote:
Thanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one
off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I
noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought,
simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the
world do you get inside the pedestal?
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to lose
sight of the shore."
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January 19, 2013 at 3:48 pm #79131
cstewart
ParticipantO.k., I did that. I removed the pin from the cable inside wire, however the cable jacket is still attached to the pedestal inside somewhere down there (about 12-15 inches), where I can’t get to it. Is there a trick to reaching that connection?
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January 19, 2013 at 4:06 pm #79132
Anonymous
I have never changed the cable so I haven’t dealt with that particular
jump-up. Attaching a cable where there is no access seems odd if not
impossible. Are you sure the cable attachment point isn’t just outside
the base of the pedestal, above the fuel tank, where the cable exits the
pedestal? You can see and reach that area from an emptied lazarette. If
it’s where you say it is, 12″+ down the pedestal from the top, you ought
to be able to reach it, no?Tor
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January 19, 2013 at 4:22 pm #79133
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorI have changed my transmission cable. Yo remove the compass as you
have already done. Next you need to loosen the screw on the aft center
of the pedestal. This screw is tightening a clip against the inside of
the pedestal to retain the cable housings. I ended up removing the
entire cog assembly in order to reach everything. Don’t drop the cog
down inside. It will be a pain to get it out. 🙂-Patrick
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On Jan 19, 2013, at 9:48, cstewart wrote:
O.k., I did that. I removed the pin from the cable inside wire, however the cable jacket is still attached to the pedestal inside somewhere down there (about 12-15 inches), where I can’t get to it. Is there a trick to reaching that connection?
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to lose sight of the shore."
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January 19, 2013 at 4:37 pm #79134
madsailor
ModeratorRemove the compass. There are instructions on Edson’s site. Depending on
whether you have a newer or older pedestal will determine how to change the
cable but in either case it’s pretty apparent.Bob
On Jan 19, 2013 2:28 PM, “cstewart” wrote:Thanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one
off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I
noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought,
simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the
world do you get inside the pedestal?
"People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to lose
sight of the shore."
Andre Gide 1869-1951_______________________________________________
maillist mailing listhttps://pearson424.org/mailman/listinfo/maillist_pearson424.org
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January 19, 2013 at 4:47 pm #79135
RLeeds
ParticipantCharlie-
This is a challenging project! First of all go to Edson’s website and find
the manaual (or maintenance instructions) for our pedestal (# 34181). When
taking apart the cables and removing the compass, be sure and stuff a rag
into th epedestal underneath the hardware in order to catch any parts that
you may drop. also, tie string to the cable(s) you are removing so as not
to drop them down and then you can use the string to pull up the new cables
as well. Trickiest part i remember was the clamp that holds the shift and
throttle cables midway down inside the pedestal. you need to get that
unclamped and free the cables from it.
any questions, i advise calling Edson -they are very helpful !BTW, while you are in there, might be a good time to replace the shaft brake
pads if you haven’t done so yet!Good luck!
Rodd
Windseeker
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January 19, 2013 at 5:05 pm #79136
skipmac
ParticipantJust replaced both cables on my 422 with Edson pedestal. As noted, remove compass (and yes, don’t drop screws or drain the compass). The only other step was as described by Patrick, to remove the clip holding the cables to the side of the pedestal. On mine the screw is a flat head on the aft side of the column of the pedestal about 12″ below the compass. If you look down inside the pedestal after removing the compass you can see the clip.
When installing the new cable make sure you get the lip that encircles the metal end of the cable jacket correctly seated in the clip before screwing it down. That’s what holds the cable jacket from sliding with the inner cable when you move the levers.
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January 19, 2013 at 5:32 pm #79137
cstewart
ParticipantThanks for the input. Skipmac, per Patricks experience, do you think I should have to remove the cog assembly also, or were you able to manuver the old cable to get it out and the new cable into place to screw it down into the clip?
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January 20, 2013 at 2:35 am #79141
RichCarterParticipanthttp://www.richardcarter.net/repower/ControlCables.html
Rich
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January 20, 2013 at 5:35 am #79142
cstewart
ParticipantThanks, Rich:
with your post I was able to find the Edson technical bulletin that lays it out pretty well. Now I see what everyone was talking about.
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January 20, 2013 at 5:52 pm #79145
RichCarterParticipantGlad it helped. I should go through my web pages again and fix the broken
links. Its on the to-do list, just below a zillion other things.
Regards
Rich
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January 21, 2013 at 2:02 am #79148
Seawater
ParticipantMy cable started to seize up, so I used a generous amount of penetrating oil as a temporary fix, then when the cable started to loosen up, I lubed it with machine oil.
I figured that the cable had started to rust internally and that it would seize up again soon, so I had better replace it very soon. That was years ago. Now I check the cables at the beginning of the season, and spray some more oil down there.
You may get away with lube for a while, like I did. Then again, if it seizes again while docking in a crosswind…
If you source a cable please let me know the particulars.
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January 21, 2013 at 3:51 am #79149
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorTeleflex Control Cables catalog
http://bit.ly/9zaTRhWidely available at chandleries.
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W7PEAOn Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Seawater wrote:
My cable started to seize up, so I used a generous amount of penetrating
oil as a temporary fix, then when the cable started to loosen up, I lubed
it with machine oil.I figured that the cable had started to rust internally and that it would
seize up again soon, so I had better replace it very soon. That was years
ago. Now I check the cables at the beginning of the season, and spray some
more oil down there.You may get away with lube for a while, like I did. Then again, if it
seizes again while docking in a crosswind…If you source a cable please let me know the particulars.
Walter
SV Madness
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick!
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