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    • #68667
      cstewart
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      Thanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.

      Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought, simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the world do you get inside the pedestal?

    • #79129
      Anonymous

      Charlie,

      You get in from the top by removing the compass. Be sure you only loosen
      the 2 or 3 screws that hold the compass to the pedestal, and not all of
      the screws around the perimeter. Unscrewing the latter releases the
      globe and allows all of the compass fluid to spill out. (Guess how I
      know this.)

      Tor


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    • #79130
      john stevenson
      Participant

      If you have the standard Edson pedestal with which most p424 were equipped,
      remove the compass and you will have access to the inside of the pedestal
      from the top.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM, cstewart wrote:

      Thanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one
      off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.

      Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I
      noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought,
      simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the
      world do you get inside the pedestal?


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      sight of the shore."
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    • #79131
      cstewart
      Participant

      O.k., I did that. I removed the pin from the cable inside wire, however the cable jacket is still attached to the pedestal inside somewhere down there (about 12-15 inches), where I can’t get to it. Is there a trick to reaching that connection?

    • #79132
      Anonymous

      I have never changed the cable so I haven’t dealt with that particular
      jump-up. Attaching a cable where there is no access seems odd if not
      impossible. Are you sure the cable attachment point isn’t just outside
      the base of the pedestal, above the fuel tank, where the cable exits the
      pedestal? You can see and reach that area from an emptied lazarette. If
      it’s where you say it is, 12″+ down the pedestal from the top, you ought
      to be able to reach it, no?

      Tor


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    • #79133
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      I have changed my transmission cable. Yo remove the compass as you
      have already done. Next you need to loosen the screw on the aft center
      of the pedestal. This screw is tightening a clip against the inside of
      the pedestal to retain the cable housings. I ended up removing the
      entire cog assembly in order to reach everything. Don’t drop the cog
      down inside. It will be a pain to get it out. 🙂

      -Patrick

      Sent from my Surfboard

      On Jan 19, 2013, at 9:48, cstewart wrote:

      O.k., I did that. I removed the pin from the cable inside wire, however the cable jacket is still attached to the pedestal inside somewhere down there (about 12-15 inches), where I can’t get to it. Is there a trick to reaching that connection?


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    • #79134
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Remove the compass. There are instructions on Edson’s site. Depending on
      whether you have a newer or older pedestal will determine how to change the
      cable but in either case it’s pretty apparent.

      Bob
      On Jan 19, 2013 2:28 PM, “cstewart” wrote:

      Thanks everyone for your input on the injection pump. I took the old one
      off and had it rebuilt at a specialty shop, $585.00. Done.

      Now I have a new problem. While putting everything back together, I
      noticed that my Throttle Cable is bad and needs replacing. I thought,
      simple, just pull a new cable and attach. Here’s the question: how in the
      world do you get inside the pedestal?


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      sight of the shore."
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    • #79135
      RLeeds
      Participant

      Charlie-
      This is a challenging project! First of all go to Edson’s website and find
      the manaual (or maintenance instructions) for our pedestal (# 34181). When
      taking apart the cables and removing the compass, be sure and stuff a rag
      into th epedestal underneath the hardware in order to catch any parts that
      you may drop. also, tie string to the cable(s) you are removing so as not
      to drop them down and then you can use the string to pull up the new cables
      as well. Trickiest part i remember was the clamp that holds the shift and
      throttle cables midway down inside the pedestal. you need to get that
      unclamped and free the cables from it.
      any questions, i advise calling Edson -they are very helpful !

      BTW, while you are in there, might be a good time to replace the shaft brake
      pads if you haven’t done so yet!

      Good luck!
      Rodd
      Windseeker


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    • #79136
      skipmac
      Participant

      Just replaced both cables on my 422 with Edson pedestal. As noted, remove compass (and yes, don’t drop screws or drain the compass). The only other step was as described by Patrick, to remove the clip holding the cables to the side of the pedestal. On mine the screw is a flat head on the aft side of the column of the pedestal about 12″ below the compass. If you look down inside the pedestal after removing the compass you can see the clip.

      When installing the new cable make sure you get the lip that encircles the metal end of the cable jacket correctly seated in the clip before screwing it down. That’s what holds the cable jacket from sliding with the inner cable when you move the levers.

    • #79137
      cstewart
      Participant

      Thanks for the input. Skipmac, per Patricks experience, do you think I should have to remove the cog assembly also, or were you able to manuver the old cable to get it out and the new cable into place to screw it down into the clip?

    • #79141
      RichCarter
      Participant

      http://www.richardcarter.net/repower/ControlCables.html
      Rich


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    • #79142
      cstewart
      Participant

      Thanks, Rich:
      with your post I was able to find the Edson technical bulletin that lays it out pretty well. Now I see what everyone was talking about.
      http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/PDFs/maintenance/eb92316.php

    • #79145
      RichCarter
      Participant

      Glad it helped. I should go through my web pages again and fix the broken
      links. Its on the to-do list, just below a zillion other things.
      Regards
      Rich


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    • #79148
      Seawater
      Participant

      My cable started to seize up, so I used a generous amount of penetrating oil as a temporary fix, then when the cable started to loosen up, I lubed it with machine oil.

      I figured that the cable had started to rust internally and that it would seize up again soon, so I had better replace it very soon. That was years ago. Now I check the cables at the beginning of the season, and spray some more oil down there.

      You may get away with lube for a while, like I did. Then again, if it seizes again while docking in a crosswind…

      If you source a cable please let me know the particulars.

    • #79149
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

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      Widely available at chandleries.

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      On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Seawater wrote:

      My cable started to seize up, so I used a generous amount of penetrating
      oil as a temporary fix, then when the cable started to loosen up, I lubed
      it with machine oil.

      I figured that the cable had started to rust internally and that it would
      seize up again soon, so I had better replace it very soon. That was years
      ago. Now I check the cables at the beginning of the season, and spray some
      more oil down there.

      You may get away with lube for a while, like I did. Then again, if it
      seizes again while docking in a crosswind…

      If you source a cable please let me know the particulars.


      Walter
      SV Madness
      P424 Hull #1

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