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    • #68727
      quent
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      Hello All-
      Yard I’m thinking of using wants the aft strap under the keel instead of aft of the prop. Afraid of damaging the shaft/strut assembly.
      Seems a little shakey to me. Anyone have guidance?
      Thanks,
      Quent

    • #79503
      madsailor
      Moderator

      You can pick the boat up by running the strap at the aft edge of the keel.
      I’ve done it, but prefer the space between the prop and rudder.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On May 23, 2013 7:03 AM, “quent” wrote:

      Hello All-
      Yard I’m thinking of using wants the aft strap under the keel instead of
      aft of the prop. Afraid of damaging the shaft/strut assembly.
      Seems a little shakey to me. Anyone have guidance?
      Thanks,
      Quent

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    • #79504
      john stevenson
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      Quent,
      Remember the aft portion of the keel is hollow. I’m not sure it is the
      best place for the strap. Remember Alan’s experience when he told the yard
      where to put the strap and it did catch the shaft. My advise: Give them
      the lifting diagram and if they don’t think they can lift the boat safely
      go elsewhere.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      You can pick the boat up by running the strap at the aft edge of the keel.
      I’ve done it, but prefer the space between the prop and rudder.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On May 23, 2013 7:03 AM, “quent” wrote:

      Hello All-
      Yard I’m thinking of using wants the aft strap under the keel instead of
      aft of the prop. Afraid of damaging the shaft/strut assembly.
      Seems a little shakey to me. Anyone have guidance?
      Thanks,
      Quent

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    • #79505
      unabated
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      My best advice is to have the yard lift just behind the prop shaft. once they have the strap in place and they put just a wee bit of tension on it, go down and turn the prop shaft. this would ensure that the strap is not on the shaft or the prop. On my boat and I know they’re all different, the strap is either lined up with my winches or just aft of the winches.
      My other best advice is to, as soon as they put the travel lift in place, look at your watch say “ok it’s time for coffee I’ll be back in an hour” then call your insurance company.
      What I really found out was that if you tell them where to put the straps you now become responsible for any damage. if you let them place the straps and you stay out of it, then they are responsible.
      Good luck
      Alan
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      On May 23, 2013, at 7:30 AM, John Stevenson wrote:

      Quent,
      Remember the aft portion of the keel is hollow. I’m not sure it is the
      best place for the strap. Remember Alan’s experience when he told the yard
      where to put the strap and it did catch the shaft. My advise: Give them
      the lifting diagram and if they don’t think they can lift the boat safely
      go elsewhere.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com

      On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

      You can pick the boat up by running the strap at the aft edge of the keel.
      I’ve done it, but prefer the space between the prop and rudder.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On May 23, 2013 7:03 AM, “quent” wrote:

      Hello All-
      Yard I’m thinking of using wants the aft strap under the keel instead of
      aft of the prop. Afraid of damaging the shaft/strut assembly.
      Seems a little shakey to me. Anyone have guidance?
      Thanks,
      Quent

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    • #79506
      RichCarter
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      Why the heck would they want to lift there? I’ve been hauling for over 25 years now and nobody has ever even suggested lifting by the keel. Are they afraid it will fall off when they lift the boat? I wouldn’t lift there. The back of the keel is hollow and not intended to bear weight.

      Someone sent out a diagram a few years back showing the suggested lift points for the boat. For me, it’s where the sheet winches are. Sorry, I can’t seen to find it.

      Rich


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    • #79507
      Anonymous

      If they listen to you when one tells them where to put the straps, it
      suggests they really don’t know what they are doing with your boat. The
      original owners’ manual shows precisely where to put the straps, and how
      not to engage the prop shaft, etc.


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    • #79508
      quent
      Participant

      Great advice, thanks guys. I’ll be shopping for a different yard. Maybe hand them a picture without comment, and go for coffee!
      Best regards,
      Quent

    • #79509
      cstewart
      Participant

      When I bought my boat 3 years ago, the yard (Sandusky OH) of the previous owner was adamant that he wanted to lift boat from the aft of the keel, though it was close to the shaft, he thought it was o.k. He lifted it that way twice a year for 18 years with no damage to my knowledge. He would tie a rope between the fore and aft straps to keep them from sliding back on to the shaft. Now that I have the boat, I disagree with him, and I give the lift operator the boat diagram that shows the aft placement behind the prop and forward the rudder, on my boat it is just aft the mizzen mast. I have now marked it on the gunnel. Then, I go get that cup of coffee. I would hate to see what that strap would do to the max-prop if he missed.
      On the last haulout the operator engaged me in a questionnaire where he would say, is this it?, do you like this position?, do you want me to go with it here?. I realized he was smartly transferring the responsibility to me. That’s why I will now go get the coffee.

    • #79510
      quent
      Participant

      Found it. Titled Pearson 424 ketch lifting plan, 11 Aug 2008. Thanks, Tor!
      Q

    • #79512
      cstewart
      Participant

      Quent:
      This is also a good time to remind yourself to make sure and block it to the forward part of the keel and not the back. I thought of it about 5 minutes after the travel-lift pulled away. I had them come back and move the blocks.

    • #79513
      RichCarter
      Participant

      I block the forward part of the keel and the rudder skeg.
      Rich


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