When a captain I know needs to do a single-handed delivery, he trails 100 foot of line off the stern. He hasn’t had to use it yet but says, “if you go overboard, the water displacement of the boat’s motion will suck you behind the boat where you have a chance of grabbing the line.” Tying a type-four to the end wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

Roger

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What about the hit to speed? Ahahahahaha!

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When a captain I know needs to do a single-handed delivery, he trails 100
foot of line off the stern. He hasn’t had to use it yet but says, “if you
go overboard, the water displacement of the boat’s motion will suck you
behind the boat where you have a chance of grabbing the line.” Tying a
type-four to the end wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

Roger

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Tan lines for just the pfd? You must have presented quite a sight. 🙂

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 18, 2013 7:14 AM, “Alan” wrote:

As jack Tyler once said, better to spend $$ on keeping yourself on the
boat, than trying to figure out how to get yourself back on it.
I always have jack lines (1 inch nylon webbing) rigged down both sides of
boat. Use them religiously when ever I leave the cockpit when I sail alone.
Also have an EPIRB attached to Inflatable PFD/harness.
When I was in the Caribbean and working on my all over tan, I had tan
lines in the shape of my PFD. I know ….. TMI.
Alan

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When a captain I know needs to do a single-handed delivery, he trails

100 foot of line off the stern. He hasn’t had to use it yet but says, “if
you go overboard, the water displacement of the boat’s motion will suck you
behind the boat where you have a chance of grabbing the line.” Tying a
type-four to the end wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

Roger

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Back in the late 70’s, when I and friends were first starting to sail
off-shore, one of us proposed that we trail a line off the stern for a
potential overboard rescue. We decided to test it. trailing a line with
several loops tied in. We motored the boat at about 4 kts in flat seas and
each of us took a turn jumping overboard and attempting a self-rescue.
The line was only 40′ long and I was one of the three (total of 5 guys)
who managed to catch the last loop in the line. Then I almost drowned as I
was pulled through the water at 4 kts. I couldn’t pull myself forward far
enough to grab the second loop. We were all young and in good shape then,
although I don’t deny there was some alcohol consumed before and during the
experiment, which ended when we managed to wrap the line on the prop.

With a crew on board it might have facilitated at retrieval – stop the boat
and pull the fool on board, but it would have been of no use for
single-handing. Much better to stay on board.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com

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Tan lines for just the pfd? You must have presented quite a sight. 🙂

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 18, 2013 7:14 AM, “Alan” wrote:

As jack Tyler once said, better to spend $$ on keeping yourself on the
boat, than trying to figure out how to get yourself back on it.
I always have jack lines (1 inch nylon webbing) rigged down both sides of
boat. Use them religiously when ever I leave the cockpit when I sail

alone.

Also have an EPIRB attached to Inflatable PFD/harness.
When I was in the Caribbean and working on my all over tan, I had tan
lines in the shape of my PFD. I know ….. TMI.
Alan

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On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:45 AM, “” <
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When a captain I know needs to do a single-handed delivery, he trails

100 foot of line off the stern. He hasn’t had to use it yet but says, “if
you go overboard, the water displacement of the boat’s motion will suck

you

behind the boat where you have a chance of grabbing the line.” Tying a
type-four to the end wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

Roger

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There are also potential issues with safety harnesses and jacklines. A
number of years ago a single-handed sailor in the round Britain race
drowned when he was thrown over the lifelines with his harness attached to
a jackline. He was on the leeward side and pinned against hull
underwater. If I have to work on the leeward side I hook into the windward
jackline and cross the boat under the boom or forward of mast.
Of course, like Tor, I often ignore my rules and don’t hook in to windward
or not hook in at all when I’m feeling over confident and the conditions
are not rough enough to put fear in me.

Regards,
John Stevenson
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Alan wrote:

John
I’ve heard that story before from many other people trying to experiment
with the rope attached to the stern of the boat. The shock as you fall off
the boat, trying to swim to the rope or back to the boat, even in flat calm
seas is almost impossible. I can’t even imagine doing it in rough seas.
I’ve also heard of people attached to the boat alongside, being dragged
and finding it impossible to climb up the freeboard back into the boat
because you’re being dragged along.
I highly doubt that any of us would be able to pull ourselves up the
tether line and back into the boat. Talk about trolling for sharks.
Alan

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wrote:

Back in the late 70’s, when I and friends were first starting to sail
off-shore, one of us proposed that we trail a line off the stern for a
potential overboard rescue. We decided to test it. trailing a line with
several loops tied in. We motored the boat at about 4 kts in flat seas

and

each of us took a turn jumping overboard and attempting a self-rescue.
The line was only 40′ long and I was one of the three (total of 5 guys)
who managed to catch the last loop in the line. Then I almost drowned

as I

was pulled through the water at 4 kts. I couldn’t pull myself forward

far

enough to grab the second loop. We were all young and in good shape

then,

although I don’t deny there was some alcohol consumed before and during

the

experiment, which ended when we managed to wrap the line on the prop.

With a crew on board it might have facilitated at retrieval – stop the

boat

and pull the fool on board, but it would have been of no use for
single-handing. Much better to stay on board.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Robert Fine wrote:

Tan lines for just the pfd? You must have presented quite a sight. 🙂

I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Jul 18, 2013 7:14 AM, “Alan” wrote:

As jack Tyler once said, better to spend $$ on keeping yourself on the
boat, than trying to figure out how to get yourself back on it.
I always have jack lines (1 inch nylon webbing) rigged down both sides

of

boat. Use them religiously when ever I leave the cockpit when I sail

alone.

Also have an EPIRB attached to Inflatable PFD/harness.
When I was in the Caribbean and working on my all over tan, I had tan
lines in the shape of my PFD. I know ….. TMI.
Alan

Sent from my iPhone

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> wrote:

When a captain I know needs to do a single-handed delivery, he trails

100 foot of line off the stern. He hasn’t had to use it yet but says,

“if

you go overboard, the water displacement of the boat’s motion will suck

you

behind the boat where you have a chance of grabbing the line.” Tying a
type-four to the end wouldn’t be a bad idea either.

Roger

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Sometimes the old ways are the best ways. “One hand for the ship,” comes to
mind. I do believe I look like a lower primate when I move fore and aft on
the side decks. Even in calm weather I walk hunched over, from handhold to
handhold so that most of the time I’m using TWO hands for the ship. I may be
foolish, but I’m not crazy. (Or is it the other way around?)

Tor

Roger,

I believe your friend is only going to drown more quickly after dragging
behind his boat for a while. Suggest that he test out his grab line when his
boat is sailing 5 knots, fully clothed, with competent crew on board to
retrieve him afterwards. If he’s a Yankee sailor, he should do it in cold
water.

As I single-hander for many years, I gave the possibility of falling
overboard a lot of thought. I came up with a way-better-than-nothing
solution that was published years ago in an Australian sailing magazine,
Cruising Helmsman. SAIL finally accepted it last year, but they haven’t run
it yet. Here’s a sneak preview: http://www.tor.cc/articles/last.htm .

I’d be grateful for any useful suggestions for improvement from this group.

Tor

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Great story! Capn’ Tor’s Last Chance Trip Line
to the rescue. And it comes with a
bottle of rum.

Tor

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Alan,

Remind me to tell you my trolling for sharks story one of these days, with
me as the bait. That sucker was 12′ if it was an inch! (You know, maybe
Thatcher was right. Maybe I am just dumb lucky.)

Tor

Let me introduce you to probably the most in depth discussion about staying aboard on the Internets….

I’ve been following this site for years, you all may find it very beneficial also.

http://www.morganscloud.com/2013/06/28/staying-aboardpart-6-jacklines-and-tethers-revisited/

This is Part “six”.

A very in depth blog that has blossomed into some very, very, useful information for all sailors.
Enjoy!

Ken