Hi Paul,

Our boat has the anchor platform, but I believe that it was a factory
add-on on a lot of the boats, similar to the wood cap rails etc. Our
factory drawings show the platform, but not in any useful detail.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

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Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on. Does anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats? Or better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several of them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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Paul,
If you are going to fabricate an anchor platform you may want to consider
something different than the one supplied by Pearson. The one Pearson made
is just cantilevered off the bow with no support from below. That works
fine for anchor storage and is not a problem when anchored if the load is
taken up on a snubber line, but it may not work so well when trying to
break an anchor free or if the snubber comes loose in a blow. I’ve seen
more than one 424 with an anchor platform bent downwards 5-10 degrees,
which I assume was the result of excessive force on the anchor roller. The
equivalent of a solid bob-stay under the platform, would probably work.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s Blog

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Hi Paul,

Our boat has the anchor platform, but I believe that it was a factory
add-on on a lot of the boats, similar to the wood cap rails etc. Our
factory drawings show the platform, but not in any useful detail.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

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Anchor Platform / bow sprit

Author:

Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on.
Does anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats?
Or better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several
of them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see
about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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After you bend the platform straight again… consider having some 3/16″
136 stainless plate bent into a channel and welded to the bottom edge of
the long tubes as well as below the cross tube. Cut at nice angle on
the ends of the channels before welding and fold closed, weld up pretty,
grind, buff, and polish. You can pick the boat up by the anchor
platform after that. I will post a picture soon. (don’t notice the
85lb Mantus and 65lb CQR…)

Pete

On 8/28/2014 4:39 PM, John Stevenson via maillist wrote:

Paul,
If you are going to fabricate an anchor platform you may want to consider
something different than the one supplied by Pearson. The one Pearson made
is just cantilevered off the bow with no support from below. That works
fine for anchor storage and is not a problem when anchored if the load is
taken up on a snubber line, but it may not work so well when trying to
break an anchor free or if the snubber comes loose in a blow. I’ve seen
more than one 424 with an anchor platform bent downwards 5-10 degrees,
which I assume was the result of excessive force on the anchor roller. The
equivalent of a solid bob-stay under the platform, would probably work.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s Blog

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Hi Paul,

Our boat has the anchor platform, but I believe that it was a factory
add-on on a lot of the boats, similar to the wood cap rails etc. Our
factory drawings show the platform, but not in any useful detail.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

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Author:

Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on.
Does anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats?
Or better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several
of them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see
about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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Thanks for all the replies… I’d just like to stay on track:

1. Does anyone have a design or schematic for the anchor platform?
2. Can anyone refer me to someone who has fabricated them in the past?

I love all the insight on this forum, but we get so easily distracted from the actual questions, we sometimes don’t get any applicable answers.

Thank you all for staying focused. I appreciate your help.

Paul

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:08 PM, Pete Dubler via maillist wrote:

After you bend the platform straight again… consider having some 3/16″
136 stainless plate bent into a channel and welded to the bottom edge of
the long tubes as well as below the cross tube. Cut at nice angle on
the ends of the channels before welding and fold closed, weld up pretty,
grind, buff, and polish. You can pick the boat up by the anchor
platform after that. I will post a picture soon. (don’t notice the
85lb Mantus and 65lb CQR…)

Pete

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Paul,
If you are going to fabricate an anchor platform you may want to consider
something different than the one supplied by Pearson. The one Pearson made
is just cantilevered off the bow with no support from below. That works
fine for anchor storage and is not a problem when anchored if the load is
taken up on a snubber line, but it may not work so well when trying to
break an anchor free or if the snubber comes loose in a blow. I’ve seen
more than one 424 with an anchor platform bent downwards 5-10 degrees,
which I assume was the result of excessive force on the anchor roller. The
equivalent of a solid bob-stay under the platform, would probably work.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s Blog

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Hi Paul,

Our boat has the anchor platform, but I believe that it was a factory
add-on on a lot of the boats, similar to the wood cap rails etc. Our
factory drawings show the platform, but not in any useful detail.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

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Author:

Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on.
Does anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats?
Or better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several
of them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see
about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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Hi Dave,
So yours was a factory option? I mistakenly thought they were all custom add ons. I wonder if anyone has the original Pearson designs (with greater detail than the overall boat plans)?

That stuff has got to be around somewhere. I realize that the 2-point attachment is not idea, but there are LOTS of them out there that seem to be working just fine.

Thank you,

paul

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:42 PM, Paul Audi wrote:

Thanks for all the replies… I’d just like to stay on track:

1. Does anyone have a design or schematic for the anchor platform?
2. Can anyone refer me to someone who has fabricated them in the past?

I love all the insight on this forum, but we get so easily distracted from the actual questions, we sometimes don’t get any applicable answers.

Thank you all for staying focused. I appreciate your help.

Paul

On Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:08 PM, Pete Dubler via maillist wrote:

After you bend the platform straight again… consider having some 3/16″
136 stainless plate bent into a channel and welded to the bottom edge of
the long tubes as well as below the cross tube. Cut at nice angle on
the ends of the channels before welding and fold closed, weld up pretty,
grind, buff, and polish. You can pick the boat up by the anchor
platform after that. I will post a picture soon. (don’t notice the
85lb Mantus and 65lb CQR…)

Pete

On 8/28/2014 4:39 PM, John Stevenson via maillist wrote:

Paul,
If you are going to fabricate an anchor platform you may want to consider
something different than the one supplied by Pearson. The one Pearson made
is just cantilevered off the bow with no support from below. That works
fine for anchor storage and is not a problem when anchored if the load is
taken up on a snubber line, but it may not work so well when trying to
break an anchor free or if the snubber comes loose in a blow. I’ve seen
more than one 424 with an anchor platform bent downwards 5-10 degrees,
which I assume was the result of excessive force on the anchor roller. The
equivalent of a solid bob-stay under the platform, would probably work.

Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s Blog

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Hi Paul,

Our boat has the anchor platform, but I believe that it was a factory
add-on on a lot of the boats, similar to the wood cap rails etc. Our
factory drawings show the platform, but not in any useful detail.

Dave and Pat
Doris E. #178

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Author:

Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on.
Does anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats?
Or better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several
of them for

other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see

about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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I got this, but also feel it needs a third point somewhere on he stem. OK
… on the list!

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Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on. Does
anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats? Or
better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several of
them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see
about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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When I installed my new vertical windlass, I wanted it to be
capable of handling a second bow anchor. This wound up requiring
several innovations, one of which was re-aligning the anchor
roller chutes. It wasn’t too difficult since my boat doesn’t have
an anchor platform. (I did have to cut an access port just abaft
the stem head to get at the roller chute thru-bolt nuts.) My
point is, if you’re planning to install an anchor platform it may
be useful to first be sure you’ve got the windlass you’re going
to keep, and then plan your platform rollers to match the angle
that each rode will travel from the windlass to the anchor
roller. This will be especially important if you’re using a
vertical windlass.

Just a thought that might save one of you a future headache.

Tor

Paul
I added mine. The pipe is schedule 40 stainless I took it to midis muffler shop to bend. When trying to fabricate the multiple angles were too much for me. I cut the pipe inserted another pipe inside tied the platform in place and marked the position so the metal plate lay flat on the bow. Welded and polished many hours.
Sent picture in separate email

Linus

Live by the currents, plan by the tides and follow the sun

On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:57 AM, pma_foyl via maillist wrote:

Thanks Ken,
The link you sent is a very similar one; worth looking into. I’ve seen some other I like too.

I’ll look at my deck drawings, but I don’t think the details are on my plans. If it’s not a huge pain, I would very much appreciate the dimensions of your anchor platform.

Seems like everyone who has one, are benefiting from a factory option (not a post-purchase add-on). I’ve got a couple good fabricators here. maybe I’ll just spec out my dream platform. I’ve actually seen some others that seem very practical.

Thanks to all. I appreciate the input.
Best,

Paul

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1-2-3-4.

Ken,

I know even less about that forum website than you do, never have used it. All I ever do is send emails to . If I want to share a JPEG or whatever I just attach it to the email as I have done here with your drawing.

Tor

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Ken,

I know even less about that forum website than you do, never have used it. All I ever do is send emails to . If I want to share a JPEG or whatever I just attach it to the email as I have done here with your drawing.

Tor

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Ken –

If my email below (with your drawing) doesn’t show up in the forum emails in the next few minutes, then they’re probably having issues at that end. It may show up in the group’s emails soon.

Tor

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Paul, here is the first drawing of “Painkillers” bow platform. I will have
another, of the way it is mounted to the chainplate and the actual double
roller that is welded on top. I hope this picture makes it to you and
hopefully to the forum(new or old). I just registered for the new one but
have not confirmed.

Ken

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Hi All,
I know a lot of P424s have been modified with the anchor platform/bow
sprits with the dual anchor rollers.

My 424 does not have this, but I’m very interested in putting one on. Does
anyone have schematics of anchor platforms they’ve added their boats? Or
better yet, could anyone refer me to a fabricator that has made several of
them for other P424 owners. Then I could just reach out to them to see
about having them make one for me.

Please let me know. I appreciate your assistance.
Best,

Paul

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That is fantastic Ken, Just what I’ve been hoping for. I look forward to seeing the others too. This is a huge help! Thank you so much.

Paul

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 5:53 AM, Page Two via maillist wrote:

Paul, the image/drawing “was” posted to the new forum. I think the reason it wouldn’t go to the old forum is the size of the picture, which I don’t know how to change unless I am led through it with prompts. Any way here is the overall dimensions of the platform itself. I’ll make up another drawing of how it’s mounted to the headstay along with my double roller set-up which welds to the top of the platform.
https://www.pearson424.org/tiki/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?comments_parentId=755&topics_offset=1

The drawing is listed as…IMG 6689.JPG and at the bottom of the post.

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Hi Ken and everyone else,
I got Ken’s photo from the forum post (I think), but if there are other emailable version, please send them to my direct email: .

Thank you all. I do appreciate the help.
Best,

Paul

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:16 AM, Page Two via maillist wrote:

Thanks for trying Tor, I managed to email it too but not sure if it will show up on the (old) forum. I also registered on the new forum and hope that whole transition doesn’t ruin my day … or days.
I have been able to respond through the mailing list, and I do get emails of everyone who responds on any given subject. Also I’ve been able to work directly from the old forum but failed to get that picture loaded. Thanks again for trying.
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paul – you will get the best resolution copy from the “new” forum

everyone else – the old forum doesn’t work with pictures very often.
that’s why there’s a new forum. please stop trying to post this picture
to the old version of the forum software.

another option is to put the a copy of the image in the “gallery” – but
I’m afraid to mention it because I feel like it might be a pandora’s
box. (and it’s another piece of software that is no longer supported
[as of 2 months ago] = maybe I’ve been doing this too long )

– pat

Paul Audi via maillist wrote, On 9/2/14, 10:14 AM:

Hi Ken and everyone else,
I got Ken’s photo from the forum post (I think), but if there are other emailable version, please send them to my direct email: .

Thank you all. I do appreciate the help.
Best,

Paul

On Tuesday, September 2, 2014 1:16 AM, Page Two via maillist wrote:

Thanks for trying Tor, I managed to email it too but not sure if it will show up on the (old) forum. I also registered on the new forum and hope that whole transition doesn’t ruin my day … or days.
I have been able to respond through the mailing list, and I do get emails of everyone who responds on any given subject. Also I’ve been able to work directly from the old forum but failed to get that picture loaded. Thanks again for trying.
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Ken et al,

You aren’t making things worse-I’m doing a horrible job explaining this
transition. We do all have the pictures.. Paul has them too. He
already said he has them. He’s only thinking that you have a better
copy than the copy he already has.

BTW ( by the way ) great job drawing out the anchor platform. You
really shine there.

The pictures were received both via email and on the new forum. the old
forum doesn’t work and I can’t get the picture up there. It’s only
there for all the really old information that I don’t want to lose. I
tried for 3 days last month, much to dave’s distraction, to transport
the old info to the new forum. I only made a bigger mess so I quit
trying ( besides we needed to go sailing ). I’ll make it a read only
forum from here on out to hopefully reduce some confusion.

– pat

Page Two via maillist wrote, On 9/2/14, 5:36 PM:

Pat, I hope I’m not making things worse, I apologize if I am, I just want to share this with the forum. I’m a dumb sob when it comes to jpg’s, codes, HTML’s, picture size and all that “other” stuff.
I’ll stop trying to post pictures directly to the forum but the truth be told I don’t know how to “not” do that.

Paul, if your reading this please, email me at (subject- Anchor Platform) and I’ll send you the pictures completely off the forum.

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I know I keep flogging this old horse, but whether or not you
have an anchor platform it’s just plain advantageous all around
to run your snubber through a well-backed stem pad-eye a foot or
two above the waterline.

Tor

I really want to do that Tor, as I think it makes excellent sense. I am however a bit reluctant, since drilling holes (near the waterline) and appropriately securing the pad-eye seems a little daunting for my limited skills.

On Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:16 AM, Silverheels via maillist wrote:

I know I keep flogging this old horse, but whether or not you
have an anchor platform it’s just plain advantageous all around
to run your snubber through a well-backed stem pad-eye a foot or
two above the waterline.

Tor

Tor, I agree and that is a perfect place to end a support for a platform. I
would fabricate it all into one fitting. Just so I don’t have to tear up my
v-berth to look, am I correct to say that the access to drill and put in
proper backing for that fitting is easily accessible at the forward end of
the water tank?
Ken

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Thanks Tor, that looks like it’s actually “in” the chain locker and not
forward of the water tank. From your earlier picture of the u-bolt on the
outside I would of figured it to be lower. This is better and easier access
when I do finally get to this newest added project to the list.
Ken

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I know I am late but here is the picture of my anchor storage.  I did basically what Ken has drawn up I guess.  the first picture is before I added the dolphin striker for support.  I did this because  every other 424 I saw had a bent platform.  

Now I want to incorperate Tor’s ubolt into the bottom attachment point.  I may have to turn over the bottom plate because the support covers the plate as it is.

Cheers Y’all

Linus

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Linus …
… that sure looks robust enough. Maybe a little shorter than the one
Pearson or whoever, fabricated and offered, but similar.

I took a better look at my platform with all this going on and yes, I am
bent. I may add a temporary striker for now, because I’ve not the time to
remove the whole thing and straighten before I head out cruising. And I’m
cheap. That type of repair to me is a major haul-out with months to get
things done, so “maybe” when I pick a place to do my rig it will get some
lovin’.
Ken

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Guys

I know I am late but here is the picture of my anchor storage. I did
basically what Ken has drawn up I guess. the first picture is before I
added the dolphin striker for support. I did this because every other 424
I saw had a bent platform.

Now I want to incorperate Tor’s ubolt into the bottom attachment point. I
may have to turn over the bottom plate because the support covers the plate
as it is.

Cheers Y’all

Linus

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