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October 31, 2014 at 7:07 pm #69013
Anonymous
On Sarah there a thin plastic strips under the cockpit companionway hatch
runners. They provide a wear surface for the runners and reduce the
friction when sliding the hatch open or closed. The starboard strip came
loose years ago comes partially out when I close the hatch. I have to push
the strip back in or it will eventually break off. I tried to hold it in
place with small amount of adhesive on the aft end, but it gave way in a
few weeks.I could just pull the strip out and throw it away, but I’m afraid the metal
runner would eventually wear away the gelcoat.Anyone else have this problem (really just an annoyance) and come up with a
fix – short of removing the traveler and sea hood?Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s Blog <http://www.sailblogs.com/member/svsarah/>
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October 31, 2014 at 7:34 pm #81738
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Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic, it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the plates are stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.
Rich
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October 31, 2014 at 7:47 pm #81739
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John – CHARISMA has those strips as well, but thus far never a problems…
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Capt Bill Tice, aboard s/v CHARISMAIn a message dated 10/31/2014 3:34:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic,
it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the plates are
stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.Rich
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October 31, 2014 at 8:29 pm #81740
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Hi John,
I have them on hull 8, but they are screwed to the aluminium strip
underneath. Counter sunk flat heads.Bob
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:47 PM, John Stevenson via maillist <
> wrote:Here are a couple of pictures of what I tried to describe. I’m sure they
weren’t added by a P.O. – more likely Pearson went to something else in
later years. Sarah is hull #2 so a lot of things changed later in the
production run.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:34 PM, wrote:
Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic,
it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the platesare
Quote:stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.Rich
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October 31, 2014 at 11:57 pm #81741
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I haven’t taken a good look John but, I’m pretty sure I do not have those added plastic runners that are giving you a PITA at the aft companionway. Sounds like an “add on” to me. I do know that my midships companionway is giving me a PITA. Aluminum to aluminum sliding on the hatch leaving a puddle of aluminum chips on the outboard inner ledge just below the hatch. Not to mention it stays “sharp” constantly wearing back and forth. I keep filing the edge. Soon come, a complete mid-hatch rebuild. Well, it might not be that soon come, but eventually if I keep the boat, it will HAVE to happen.
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November 1, 2014 at 9:50 am #81742
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Doris E. definitely has the plastic strips. Worn ones could easily be
replaced with UHMW polyethylene strips from McMaster-Carr. These are a
hard,low friction plastic and relatively low cost. See also
http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Slick_Strips/SLICKSTRIP0-060X-1-000X25FT for
another possible solution.Dave and Pat
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I haven’t taken a good look John but, I’m pretty sure I do not have those added plastic runners that are giving you a PITA at the aft companionway. Sounds like an “add on” to me. I do know that my midships companionway is giving me a PITA. Aluminum to aluminum sliding on the hatch leaving a puddle of aluminum chips on the outboard inner ledge just below the hatch. Not to mention it stays “sharp” constantly wearing back and forth. I keep filing the edge. Soon come, a complete mid-hatch rebuild. Well, it might not be that soon come, but eventually if I keep the boat, it will HAVE to happen.
Ken
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November 1, 2014 at 10:31 am #81743
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I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.
Tor
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November 1, 2014 at 11:15 am #81744
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Strips made from polyethylene sheet works fine too. Every boater needs to know a guy at a local plastic shop. McMaster is way too expensive and inconvenient in comparison. (Add a machinist and welder to that list and your core team is complete).
Pete
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November 1, 2014 at 11:17 am #81745
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It turns out you can use Starboard, too, if you’ve got some thin stuff or
some thick stuff you can slice.Bob
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Quote:Strips made from polyethylene sheet works fine too. Every boater needs to
know a guy at a local plastic shop. McMaster is way too expensive and
inconvenient in comparison. (Add a machinist and welder to that list and
your core team is complete).Pete
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November 1, 2014 at 11:17 am #81746
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That’s good news that McMaster-Carr has replacements, but how did you
secure them? They don’t appear to be secured with fasteners, unless the
fasteners is forward of the hatch under the seahood (I’m not going there).
The Port side one has not come loose.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.Tor
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November 1, 2014 at 11:20 am #81747
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John,
Mine has counter sunk screws, one at the end and maybe others I can’t see.
There has to be at least two.Bob
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:17 AM, John Stevenson via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:That’s good news that McMaster-Carr has replacements, but how did you
secure them? They don’t appear to be secured with fasteners, unless the
fasteners is forward of the hatch under the seahood (I’m not going there).
The Port side one has not come loose.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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November 1, 2014 at 11:21 am #81748
Anonymous
They just float there. No where for them to go.
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November 1, 2014 at 11:25 am #81749
Anonymous
On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.
Pete
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November 1, 2014 at 11:35 am #81750
Anonymous
On mine, just bare gelcoat under the plastic strips.
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:
Quote:On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic
strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.Pete
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November 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm #81751
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To all,
I do have the strips, they look about and 1/8″ thick and are not
fastened where I can see. I’m wondering how thick they “can” be. The part
of the fiberglass hatch that slides on the strips to me looks thin. I have
about 3/8″ play that I could “add” in thickness to some new strips.Does everybody’s hatch have that much play?????
Ken
On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:34 AM, John Stevenson via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:On mine, just bare gelcoat under the plastic strips.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Pete Dubler
wrote:Quote:On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic
strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.Pete
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November 1, 2014 at 2:18 pm #81752
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I re paced the steps last year and used Hugh density polyethylene for the replacements high density PE is highly wear resistant and is the same material used in prosthetic knee joints
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November 1, 2014 at 4:25 pm #81753
Anonymous
Have to learn to re-read my emails before I send. I.e. Replaced strips with high density polyethylene.
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November 10, 2014 at 11:29 pm #81786
Anonymous
As a follow up to my questions about these strips under the cockpit hatch
runners – turns out those that responded that the strips just float between
the runners and the fiberglass described what i have. I don’t know why the
starboard strip came loose and would slide out when the hatch was closed,
but it was solved (for now) by just pushing the strip back in until it
stopped. I had previously just pushed it in flush with the edge of the
trunk cabin. Then I noticed that the port strip was much further in and it
had never come loose. I used a piece of wood to push the starboard strip
in until it stopped and now that strip stays in place when I open and close
the hatch.
I guess the strip will come loose again, but at least I have a temporary
fix for the problem.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.com
Sarah’s BlogOn Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D. via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:Have to learn to re-read my emails before I send. I.e. Replaced strips
with high density polyethylene.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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November 11, 2014 at 2:15 pm #81788
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I have no such strips. Anyone know where I can get them?
Rich
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November 19, 2014 at 11:05 pm #81826
Anonymous
If anyone needs plastic strips for hatch runners, the local
machine shop here has a huge roll of high-density plastic 1¼”
strap collecting dust. It looks like it would be ideal for the
purpose; a little narrower width than what’s in some of the
boats, but it’ll accomplish the same thing. I’m sure he’d sell it
lengths of it for next to nothing just to get it out of the shop.
I don’t know if he’d ship, but you can ask. His name is Chuck
Coats, phone 904-466-6617. Tell him Tor sent you, and don’t rush
him Yankee-style; this is good-ol’-boy country. Talk slow, be
courteous and you’ll get heck of a deal.🙂
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