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    • #69013
      Anonymous

      On Sarah there a thin plastic strips under the cockpit companionway hatch
      runners. They provide a wear surface for the runners and reduce the
      friction when sliding the hatch open or closed. The starboard strip came
      loose years ago comes partially out when I close the hatch. I have to push
      the strip back in or it will eventually break off. I tried to hold it in
      place with small amount of adhesive on the aft end, but it gave way in a
      few weeks.

      I could just pull the strip out and throw it away, but I’m afraid the metal
      runner would eventually wear away the gelcoat.

      Anyone else have this problem (really just an annoyance) and come up with a
      fix – short of removing the traveler and sea hood?

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
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    • #81738
      Anonymous

      Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic, it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the plates are stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.

      Rich


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    • #81739
      Anonymous

      John – CHARISMA has those strips as well, but thus far never a problems…
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      In a message dated 10/31/2014 3:34:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
      writes:

      Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic,
      it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the plates are
      stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.

      Rich


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    • #81740
      Anonymous

      Hi John,

      I have them on hull 8, but they are screwed to the aluminium strip
      underneath. Counter sunk flat heads.

      Bob

      On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:47 PM, John Stevenson via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Here are a couple of pictures of what I tried to describe. I’m sure they
      weren’t added by a P.O. – more likely Pearson went to something else in
      later years. Sarah is hull #2 so a lot of things changed later in the
      production run.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:34 PM, wrote:

      Both my hatches run on metal plates; no plastic. If you have plastic,
      it’s probably something someone added. I don’t remember of the plates

      are

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      stainless or aluminum but I think they are aluminum.

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    • #81741
      Anonymous

      I haven’t taken a good look John but, I’m pretty sure I do not have those added plastic runners that are giving you a PITA at the aft companionway. Sounds like an “add on” to me. I do know that my midships companionway is giving me a PITA. Aluminum to aluminum sliding on the hatch leaving a puddle of aluminum chips on the outboard inner ledge just below the hatch. Not to mention it stays “sharp” constantly wearing back and forth. I keep filing the edge. Soon come, a complete mid-hatch rebuild. Well, it might not be that soon come, but eventually if I keep the boat, it will HAVE to happen.
      Ken

    • #81742
      Anonymous

      Doris E. definitely has the plastic strips. Worn ones could easily be
      replaced with UHMW polyethylene strips from McMaster-Carr. These are a
      hard,low friction plastic and relatively low cost. See also
      http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Slick_Strips/SLICKSTRIP0-060X-1-000X25FT for
      another possible solution.

      Dave and Pat

      On 11/1/14, 12:57 AM, Page Two via maillist wrote:

      I haven’t taken a good look John but, I’m pretty sure I do not have those added plastic runners that are giving you a PITA at the aft companionway. Sounds like an “add on” to me. I do know that my midships companionway is giving me a PITA. Aluminum to aluminum sliding on the hatch leaving a puddle of aluminum chips on the outboard inner ledge just below the hatch. Not to mention it stays “sharp” constantly wearing back and forth. I keep filing the edge. Soon come, a complete mid-hatch rebuild. Well, it might not be that soon come, but eventually if I keep the boat, it will HAVE to happen.
      Ken


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    • #81743
      Anonymous

      I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.

      Tor


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    • #81744
      Anonymous

      Strips made from polyethylene sheet works fine too. Every boater needs to know a guy at a local plastic shop. McMaster is way too expensive and inconvenient in comparison. (Add a machinist and welder to that list and your core team is complete).

      Pete


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    • #81745
      Anonymous

      It turns out you can use Starboard, too, if you’ve got some thin stuff or
      some thick stuff you can slice.

      Bob

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

      Quote:
      Strips made from polyethylene sheet works fine too. Every boater needs to
      know a guy at a local plastic shop. McMaster is way too expensive and
      inconvenient in comparison. (Add a machinist and welder to that list and
      your core team is complete).

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    • #81746
      Anonymous

      That’s good news that McMaster-Carr has replacements, but how did you
      secure them? They don’t appear to be secured with fasteners, unless the
      fasteners is forward of the hatch under the seahood (I’m not going there).
      The Port side one has not come loose.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Quote:
      I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.

      Tor


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    • #81747
      Anonymous

      John,

      Mine has counter sunk screws, one at the end and maybe others I can’t see.
      There has to be at least two.

      Bob

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:17 AM, John Stevenson via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Quote:
      That’s good news that McMaster-Carr has replacements, but how did you
      secure them? They don’t appear to be secured with fasteners, unless the
      fasteners is forward of the hatch under the seahood (I’m not going there).
      The Port side one has not come loose.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Quote:
      I replaced them on Silverheels’ salon companionway 7 years ago.

      Tor


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    • #81748
      Anonymous

      They just float there. No where for them to go.


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    • #81749
      Anonymous

      On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.

      Pete


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    • #81750
      Anonymous

      On mine, just bare gelcoat under the plastic strips.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Pete Dubler wrote:

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      On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic
      strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.

      Pete


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    • #81751
      Anonymous

      To all,

      I do have the strips, they look about and 1/8″ thick and are not
      fastened where I can see. I’m wondering how thick they “can” be. The part
      of the fiberglass hatch that slides on the strips to me looks thin. I have
      about 3/8″ play that I could “add” in thickness to some new strips.

      Does everybody’s hatch have that much play?????

      Ken

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:34 AM, John Stevenson via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Quote:
      On mine, just bare gelcoat under the plastic strips.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Pete Dubler
      wrote:

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      On mine the aluminum strip is in with countersunk screws but the plastic
      strip just floats between the two pieces of aluminum.

      Pete


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    • #81752
      Anonymous

      I re paced the steps last year and used Hugh density polyethylene for the replacements high density PE is highly wear resistant and is the same material used in prosthetic knee joints

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    • #81753
      Anonymous

      Have to learn to re-read my emails before I send. I.e. Replaced strips with high density polyethylene.

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    • #81786
      Anonymous

      As a follow up to my questions about these strips under the cockpit hatch
      runners – turns out those that responded that the strips just float between
      the runners and the fiberglass described what i have. I don’t know why the
      starboard strip came loose and would slide out when the hatch was closed,
      but it was solved (for now) by just pushing the strip back in until it
      stopped. I had previously just pushed it in flush with the edge of the
      trunk cabin. Then I noticed that the port strip was much further in and it
      had never come loose. I used a piece of wood to push the starboard strip
      in until it stopped and now that strip stays in place when I open and close
      the hatch.
      I guess the strip will come loose again, but at least I have a temporary
      fix for the problem.

      Regards,
      John Stevenson
      http://www.svsarah.com
      Sarah’s Blog

      On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Steven Weinberg, Ph.D. via maillist <
      > wrote:

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      Have to learn to re-read my emails before I send. I.e. Replaced strips
      with high density polyethylene.

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    • #81788
      Anonymous

      I have no such strips. Anyone know where I can get them?

      Rich


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    • #81826
      Anonymous

      If anyone needs plastic strips for hatch runners, the local
      machine shop here has a huge roll of high-density plastic 1¼”
      strap collecting dust. It looks like it would be ideal for the
      purpose; a little narrower width than what’s in some of the
      boats, but it’ll accomplish the same thing. I’m sure he’d sell it
      lengths of it for next to nothing just to get it out of the shop.
      I don’t know if he’d ship, but you can ask. His name is Chuck
      Coats, phone 904-466-6617. Tell him Tor sent you, and don’t rush
      him Yankee-style; this is good-ol’-boy country. Talk slow, be
      courteous and you’ll get heck of a deal.

      🙂


      Silverheels, P-424 #17
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