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That looks to be a bit more than I was thinking. I’m very reluctant to put additional holes in the deck. I was thinking of something made of stainless rod that screwed into the side of the dorade box. I may never find it and having it custom made may prove to be too expensive. I hear that the new vents have some kind of retainer to hold them in the dorade box. I’ll have to see what this is.Rich
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Rich,
The ss cowl doesn’t need a rail guard. As I said the other day, mine has
been caught by the main sheet many times and doesn’t pull out.I’ll bet there’s a simple, <$1 way to lock in the rubber cowl, too.
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Tor
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Actually the stainless steel ones can be pulled out. the cowl can be caught by the mainsheet and not only pull off the Cowl but pull the mounting screws right out of the fiberglass housing, which Btw wasn’t put in very good from the factory. Been there.
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Quote:On Jun 4, 2015, at 12:22 PM, Silverheels via maillist wrote:Rich,
The ss cowl doesn’t need a rail guard. As I said the other day, mine has
been caught by the main sheet many times and doesn’t pull out.I’ll bet there’s a simple, <$1 way to lock in the rubber cowl, too.
KISS,
Tor
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A piece of licht line looped through it has kept mine aboard for several
years.
Phil
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I’m thinking that without a guard, you can’t keep it from getting pulled out. I don’t really care if it pulls out. It’s the going overboad part that’s the problem. Maybe there’s some way to put a 12′ lanyard on it.
Rich
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I have put the guard on mine and love it. Not only does the cowl stay on deck, it makes a perfect grab-rail to keep me on deck. No one hates to cut/drill holes in a boat worse than me, but with some things, like stanchions and grab rails, that is what is necessary to make them sturdy enough to keep man and machinery on board. Although Island Packet makes a rail that screws to the dorade box (on the IP370), I still like the idea of one that is through bolted to the deck for safety. The next thing I am thinking of is the mast guard or sissy bar that I have heard Tor talk about. Seems like every time I put a mains’l up for night passage, at 2400-0300 I have to go on deck and do something with it. I also like the idea of SS rails on the cabin top to replace the teak ones. I tie my dinghy down on deck to those rails, and I sometimes wonder if they would hold up in a blow. I think several folks have done that, like Pete?
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If you’ve ever had to go on deck at 3 o’clock in the morning when the wind pipes up to 30 kn and you want to put a reef in, I try to have people refrain from calling them sissy bars.
Besides for short folks like me, I can stand on them to zipper up the made cover.
Alan
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I have put the guard on mine and love it. Not only does the cowl stay on deck, it makes a perfect grab-rail to keep me on deck. No one hates to cut/drill holes in a boat worse than me, but with some things, like stanchions and grab rails, that is what is necessary to make them sturdy enough to keep man and machinery on board. Although Island Packet makes a rail that screws to the dorade box (on the IP370), I still like the idea of one that is through bolted to the deck for safety. The next thing I am thinking of is the mast guard or sissy bar that I have heard Tor talk about. Seems like every time I put a mains’l up for night passage, at 2400-0300 I have to go on deck and do something with it. I also like the idea of SS rails on the cabin top to replace the teak ones. I tie my dinghy down on deck to those rails, and I sometimes wonder if they would hold up in a blow. I think several folks have done that, like Pete?
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Hey Alan,
I’ve heard them called granny bars.  Like that name better than sissy bars.  🙂
Seriously, something to stand on might be nice.  I’ve got a 422, the center cockpit version of the 424. Not sure if there’s a big difference between the two in this regard, but my boom is pretty high, I have to climb up on the mast winches to attach the main halyard which doesn’t feel to safe when out rolling around in the ocean.Â
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