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Mighty quite out there, or else I’ve been dropped from the mail
list again. (Can’t say I blame ’em.)Any well-found opinions about the Honda EU2000i vs. Yamaha
EF2000is?Tor
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List is still working.
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Mighty quite out there, or else I’ve been dropped from the mail
list again. (Can’t say I blame ’em.)Any well-found opinions about the Honda EU2000i vs. Yamaha
EF2000is?Tor
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Hi Tor,
I have a Honda EU2000i companion model (wanted the companion for the 30 amp plug) for the boat and I have a Yamaha 3000 as back up gennie for the home. Â
No hurricanes (or blizzards) have hit N FL since I bought the Yamaha so have only run it 10-12 times for charging or to run power tools at the boat.  So far it’s a great unit; quiet, reliable, etc. The only problem I had was a clogged carb (%&$#$%!!!! ethanol gas) even though I ran it dry every use. Then someone reminded me that there’s a drain hose to get the last few drops out of the bowl that should fix that problem.
The Honda I’ve run maybe 20 hours on the boat and its everything the Honda is known for EXCEPT, it really isn’t as quiet as I hoped. Even on land in a thickly wooded area I can clearly hear it running 100 yards away.  Certainly not horribly obnoxious but I would think it a quiet anchorage it would be very audible for a long way.
Bottom line, I think either would be a good choice. A lot more Hondas out there for whatever reason but the Yamaha I have appears to be just as good a machine.Â
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Seriously, Tor, I have two of them. The first I bought in Lauderdale in
2007 , being fed up at the time with oil & temp pressure switches, belts,
filter, impellers, hoses, etc., on the WESTERBEKE 4.4 genset, (since removed
and given away). I have used the 2000EU for the last seven trips to the
Bahamas, only needing to change the plug and the oil every season; the carb
has been cleaned twice. Ethanol can be the killer here, like in any small
engine, and draining the carb is essential for storage. I stow & run mine
underneath the cockpit table while below, having it plugged directly into the
30AMP cockpit input employing an adaptor. With the door to the aft cabin
closed, the noise is not disturbing in the least. The ONLY thing it will not
do for me is run my cruiseair units, but who needs that during a Bahamian
winter?
My second unit was a gift from a fellow cruiser, who had left it in the
cockpit of his boat moored in George Town for three years. He was convinced
it had to be junk, it having been openly exposed to weather and not run the
entire time. I asked a former Honda service guy / cruiser if he thought he
could get it running. He returned it to CHARISMA the next day, having
cleaned the carb and installing a new plug & oil- “runs great!”, he bellowed. It
continues to run great, and I keep it here at TREEHOUSE to power whatever
should there be a power outage. Even my house sitter can start and run it,
when I go south!
Speaking of which, I hope to leave in about five days – hope to see you
there!
All the best, BILLBill Tice
~ in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake,VAIn a message dated 10/12/2015 11:22:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
writes:Mighty quite out there, or else I’ve been dropped from the mail
list again. (Can’t say I blame ’em.)Any well-found opinions about the Honda EU2000i vs. Yamaha
EF2000is?Tor
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Thanks, Skip. I used a Honda eu200i on Silverheels – a lot! – for 5 years with only a couple of repairs. Overall quite satisfactory. I sold it last year, still running perfectly, and am just getting the new replacement now as I prepare to go sailing again. Shopping around online for the best price, I noticed that the Yanmar is almost equally popular and about $150 less expensive. Considering how equal the two brands seem to be, I’d just buy a Yanmar this time – except I already have a new spare recoil start unit and shop repair manual for the Honda, and I already know how to work on that one. So the choice is a close one.
Tor
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Got it, Bill. Thanks.
I don’t expect to leave until the 1st week of December, but then
plan to sail directly offshore from Jacksonville to Spanish Wells
and then island hop south. So maybe I’ll see you in the Exumas in
a couple of months.Reef early,
Tor
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Enjoy!
Ewan
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Quote:On Oct 12, 2015, at 10:50, Silverheels via maillist wrote:Got it, Bill. Thanks.
I don’t expect to leave until the 1st week of December, but then
plan to sail directly offshore from Jacksonville to Spanish Wells
and then island hop south. So maybe I’ll see you in the Exumas in
a couple of months.Reef early,
Tor
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Hey Quent,
Thanks for the tip. My 7-minute online research indicates that
(1) yes, Costco’s Generac and Honeywell generators appear to be
similar and much less expensive, and (2) judging from the handful
of reviews I read, this is probably one of those
you-get-what-you-pay-for situations. If this were a suburban home
standby unit or a van-camper luxury thing, I might risk it. But
where I tend to hang out on Silverheels there usually aren’t many
(or any) repair/replacement options available. So I think I’ll
invest in the probable higher reliability of either the Honda or
the Yamaha.Tor
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Hi Tor,
So what’s your firsthand thoughts about the noise level of the Honda?  My limited experience so far is, yes the Honda is way, way quieter than the Home Depot brand X I bought years ago as a home backup. That one is about as loud as two lawnmowers running side by side.
The Honda of course is a huge improvement but I still wouldn’t want to run it at night in a quiet anchorage.  I did buy an older but unused unit and wondered if the newer ones are quieter.Â
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Skip,
Since I had nothing to which to compare my former Honda 2000 when I used it, I can’t speak for its noise level relative to earlier/later models or other brands. But I can say that you would’ve been hard-pressed to hear mine running if you were anchored a safe distance away, even downwind. Of course, I kept it in the cockpit – on the aft starboard corner of the seats, next to the shore power plug so I could connect it with a 2′ cable. (I have zero tolerance for the occasional, inconsiderate jerk who sets his portable generator on his boat’s swim platform or foredeck so that it’s quieter on his boat, but noisy as hell for everyone else in the anchorage.) Also, I didn’t run mine at night, when noises seem to double for no reason that I can fathom.
Tor
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Still hanging in Grenada and believe it or not …the very first time my
Honda did a whammy was this morning. Wouldn’t start, I’ll spare you the
roundabout/long way I found the problem. It was the spark plug, needed a
bit of sandpaper. THAT has been my only ? ever in almost 2 years. Can’t
beat it, can’t beat it with a stick.Ken
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list again. (Can’t say I blame ’em.)Any well-found opinions about the Honda EU2000i vs. Yamaha
EF2000is?Tor
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Glad to hear it all, Ken. Both Grenada and the Honda are awesome – as you know.
Reef early,
Tor
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The reason these inverter-generators run quietly is that they cycle down their speed to match the load demand. They can do this because they aren’t locked to the 3600 RPM (60hz) AC frequency. As the demand increases, their speed and corresponding noise increases. At full rated load, the inverter generator loses its advantage and runs just as loud as the simpler standard generator. I use mine to run the water heater so when its on, it makes about as much noise as any generator. I start it and leave the boat for about an hour while it makes hot water. When the water heater turns off the heater element, the generator cycles down and I can tell that the water is now hot. I sometimes run it to work the microwave oven. Running off the house inverter, the microwave doesn’t really work all that well. It takes longer to heat stuff and won’t make popcorn. Off the Honda however, it runs as well as from shore power.
Consider your intended purpose for getting a generator. If you just want to make hot water, you could get by with a less expensive standard generator. If its to charge batteries, an inverter generator might be the sensible choice. I don’t need a generator to charge my batteries but I went with the Honda anyway. I have engine-driven refrigeration so I run my main engine for 45 minutes twice a day. This doesn’t make hot water unless the boat is moving and the engine is under load. It puts more than enough juice in the batteries for a day’s use however.
Over the years I’ve had two generators, a Yamaha and a Honda EU-2000i. Both were nice. The Honda fits under my cockpit table. I don’t have a mizzen. Otherwise, I think it would be too long. If you can’t put a generator there, I don’t know where you could stow it, maybe in a deck box forward of the the mast. If you want to run an air conditioner, the EU-2000i won’t start it. I can’t see running a gas generator to power an AC though. The noise and exhaust would be unacceptable.
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Rich,
As usual, you have put this into practical perspective. Because Silverheels has a 12v fridge, my primary use for a portable generator is battery charging, so the RPM cycle-down function is a big asset. In the tropics I only occasionally run the generator to warm up the water for an evening shower, but that takes all of 15 minutes. Of course, it enables me to use power tools at anchor every once in a while, too.
Tor
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