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I am, hopefully, going to be the new owner of a 424 this winter. At the
moment I am in the process of calculating my offer and am getting shipping
bids to get the boat from Annapolis to Toledo. My only question left is the
width of the boat.Sailboat data and everyone else sites 13′ as the beam… at that number I
require no pilot vehicle and the addition of one would be near on a $1000.Could anyone confirm that the actual width of the boat is 13′? My feeling
is that the 13′ beam may not include the piece of the toe rail that sticks
out (Its on the list for replacement anyway)I really would appreciate the help and I would measure it myself if it
wasn’t a 10 hour drive from here. Also, thank you all for this wonderful
forum, website and archive of information. Its a big influence in choosing
the 424!Tom
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It would be very difficult to precisely measure because you can’t just run a tape across the deck. The coachroof is in the way. I tow my boat home and back each year and there is always a chase vehicle. He just follows along with a 2-way radio and WIDE-LOAD sign. Its part of the shipping cost I pay and have never considered trying to eliminate it. Maybe you can perform that function if the shipper allows it, but the chase vehicle performs an important safety function and I doubt the shipper would trust you with it. When changing lanes, he does a blocking maneuver to keep the lane clear. It is my impression that 8′ 6″ is the max for a non-wide-load but maybe your state is different.
For that matter, why don’t you go with the manufacturers specs and say it’s 13’0″. Nobody’s going to measure it.
Rich
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Some of the state ports of entry (aka first weigh station) have laser measurement systems the trucks drive through. There is a web site that has all the rules for each state. (For example no chase or escort required in Colorado but some roads not allowed at certain times and days). I believe that was in my article “Driver, Move that Boat!”. You can find reprint at dublerfamily.com on the boat page
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I’ve learned, that any time I I deal with a boat, if I’m not well educated ahead of time… I get hosed. I’m clear on the load all the way to the marina road without a chase… Literally, after you cross the Michigan border, you pull into my marina and the width limit for Michigan is 12’… It should make things interesting.
Pete, did they run an escort on your boat? A half inch on a laser check could kill me. I may remove the toe rail for sake of posterity.
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Quote:On Oct 27, 2015, at 5:13 PM, via maillist wrote:Some of the state ports of entry (aka first weigh station) have laser measurement systems the trucks drive through. There is a web site that has all the rules for each state. (For example no chase or escort required in Colorado but some roads not allowed at certain times and days). I believe that was in my article “Driver, Move that Boat!”. You can find reprint at dublerfamily.com on the boat page
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On land it’s not that hard to do with a level, but in the water,
impossible. Just brace up two level posts at the beam. Inches are not going
to matter, call it 13′ JMHOKen
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Tom Heller via maillist <
> wrote:I am, hopefully, going to be the new owner of a 424 this winter. At the
moment I am in the process of calculating my offer and am getting shipping
bids to get the boat from Annapolis to Toledo. My only question left is the
width of the boat.Sailboat data and everyone else sites 13′ as the beam… at that number I
require no pilot vehicle and the addition of one would be near on a $1000.Could anyone confirm that the actual width of the boat is 13′? My feeling
is that the 13′ beam may not include the piece of the toe rail that sticks
out (Its on the list for replacement anyway)I really would appreciate the help and I would measure it myself if it
wasn’t a 10 hour drive from here. Also, thank you all for this wonderful
forum, website and archive of information. Its a big influence in choosing
the 424!Tom
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Start of attached email. Subject: Re: Confirming Actual Boat Width
When I trucked unabated from Fla. to Lake Ontario I had to get an escort in either Fla. or Georgia, I don’t remember which.
Most of the issue was height, needing take bow and stern rail off.
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On Oct 27, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Ken Page via maillist wrote:
On land it’s not that hard to do with a level, but in the water,
impossible. Just brace up two level posts at the beam. Inches are not going
to matter, call it 13′ JMHOKen
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Tom Heller via maillist <
> wrote:I am, hopefully, going to be the new owner of a 424 this winter. At the
moment I am in the process of calculating my offer and am getting shipping
bids to get the boat from Annapolis to Toledo. My only question left is the
width of the boat.Sailboat data and everyone else sites 13′ as the beam… at that number I
require no pilot vehicle and the addition of one would be near on a $1000.Could anyone confirm that the actual width of the boat is 13′? My feeling
is that the 13′ beam may not include the piece of the toe rail that sticks
out (Its on the list for replacement anyway)I really would appreciate the help and I would measure it myself if it
wasn’t a 10 hour drive from here. Also, thank you all for this wonderful
forum, website and archive of information. Its a big influence in choosing
the 424!Tom
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The trucker managed those things. In some states he needed a chase
and/or escort. In most, none were needed. There was one short run, it
might have been the bottom of Mississippi, where both were needed. In
Colorado and Kansas, none were needed. I don’t remember the other
states but I think Florida also did not require one. Some metro areas
have to (and likely should) be avoided.On 10/27/2015 5:44 PM, Thomas Heller via maillist wrote:
Quote:I’ve learned, that any time I I deal with a boat, if I’m not well educated ahead of time… I get hosed. I’m clear on the load all the way to the marina road without a chase… Literally, after you cross the Michigan border, you pull into my marina and the width limit for Michigan is 12’… It should make things interesting.Pete, did they run an escort on your boat? A half inch on a laser check could kill me. I may remove the toe rail for sake of posterity.
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Quote:On Oct 27, 2015, at 5:13 PM, via maillist wrote:Some of the state ports of entry (aka first weigh station) have laser measurement systems the trucks drive through. There is a web site that has all the rules for each state. (For example no chase or escort required in Colorado but some roads not allowed at certain times and days). I believe that was in my article “Driver, Move that Boat!”. You can find reprint at dublerfamily.com on the boat page
Pete
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I’ve never had a problem with height, and my davits stick up about a foot above the pushpit. All the shippers I’ve used make use of a shoe where the keel sits. Normally, the trailer has wood beams that slide across between each half of the trailer. The shoe is used instead and allows the boat to sit lower. It is made of steel. A short wood block slides in on each side instead of a single wood beam. The shoe hangs on each block and lowers the keel to just a few inches off the pavement. She sits about 13′ 4″ off the road when leveled.
Rich
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