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June 25, 2010 at 8:54 pm #68057
kalinowski
ParticipantI want to lift the deck cover to examine the condition of the seals around the forward companionway, as a new drip occurred this AM (“Boats is like chillin, dey always need suppin”….a Bahamian quote that always stuck with me). Is it as easy as just backing out the deck screws? Or are there additional hardware that you can’t see?
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June 25, 2010 at 9:28 pm #75656
Hull152_Patrick
SpectatorI believe the starboard forward companion way has screws from underneath as
well. You’ll have to pull the headliner.
The trim can be very difficult to remove.You should plan on sealing the exposed balsa core in this are as well. On my
boat the trimdeck core was sealed with silicone. It’s dry, but it scares
me. I’l be removing some core and expoxying it closed when I put it back
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:54 PM, kalinowski <>wrote:
I want to lift the deck cover to examine the condition of the seals around
the forward companionway, as a new drip occurred this AM (“Boats is like
chillin, dey always need suppin”….a Bahamian quote that always stuck with
me). Is it as easy as just backing out the deck screws? Or are there
additional hardware that you can’t see?Dan Kalinowski
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June 25, 2010 at 10:13 pm #75657
Anonymous
Dan,
As I recall (because it’s been a couple of years at least since I messed
with that hatch), the midship companionway sea hood comes off simply by
removing the screws on deck. Then you have access to the runners underneath.
I didn’t remove them – I was just replacing the plastic slides at the time –
so I’m not sure how they’re fastened, but once you’re looking at them it
should be obvious.FYI, my midship hatch does not seal along its after edge when it’s fully
closed. The first time I took green water over it, the seawater poured in! I
stuffed some rags or something into the crevice between the hatch and the
coaming and that alleviated the problem for the duration of that blow, but
the gap remains. Figuring out a seal for it is on one of my to-do lists.PS: I know “midship” isn’t a real word, but I like it.
Tor
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June 25, 2010 at 10:24 pm #75658
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ParticipantTor,
No boat…. nothing better to do…midship [ˈmɪdˌʃɪp] Nauticaladj (Transport / Nautical Terms) in, of, or relating to
the middle of a vesseln
(Transport / Nautical Terms) the middle of a vesselAlan
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June 25, 2010 at 10:27 pm #75659
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Ah-HA! I am absolved! I thought I’d made it up – because sometimes “amidships” just doesn’t apply.
Thanks,
Tor
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June 25, 2010 at 10:41 pm #75660
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Participantamid·ships (ə mid′s̸hips′)adverb, adjective in or toward the
middle of a ship; esp., halfway between bow and sternwrite(‘Webster’s New World College Dictionary Copyright © 2010 by Wiley Publishing, Inc., Cleveland, Ohio.
Used by arrangement with John Wiley & Sons, Inc.’);
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June 25, 2010 at 10:42 pm #75661
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ParticipantI am trying to figure out what people who don’t own boats do on Friday nights….. I know… I need a life…..
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June 26, 2010 at 7:47 am #75663
kalinowski
ParticipantThey look at the exceptional moon rising over Diamond Head tonight and dream of sailing away (if they’re enlightened).
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June 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm #75664
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If it’s that beautiful, why leave? Sounds like the kind of place we’re all
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June 27, 2010 at 7:02 am #75666
kalinowski
ParticipantThere’s empty slips in my marina on Ke’ehi Lagoon. As they say in JoJa, “Y’all come on down”.
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June 27, 2010 at 12:10 pm #75667
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OK.
What’s JoJa?
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June 27, 2010 at 12:14 pm #75668
Anonymous
Never mind. The coffee just kicked in and I got it.
Tor
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June 27, 2010 at 7:09 pm #75669
kalinowski
ParticipantAloha Tor:
I just read your blog. If you’re going to Panama, you should visit Bocas del Toro on the Carib side. Lots of islands, funky little towns, safe, cheap. It’s like Venice in that almost all is done by boat.
We chartered a house boat down here (only craft available) and fell in love with it. So we bought some property on Isla Solarte (cheap).
Worth the effort to get there.
Dan Kalinowski
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June 28, 2010 at 12:39 pm #75670
Anonymous
Thanks for the pointer, Dan. In fact, Bocas is exactly where I’m headed
(after the San Blas), more or less in tandem with a an old sailing buddy,
Ray Jason, aboard his sloop, Aventura. Ray, who writes quite a bit for
Latitude 38, SAIL and others, spent a couple of years hanging around there
and has been trying to lure me down for years. Now I’ll finally get to see
it for myself. I hear nothing but good things from other cruisers.Tor
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June 28, 2010 at 4:25 pm #75671
RichCarterParticipantDan
There’s nothing special there. Just be sure to caulk the fasteners when you put them back in. Here’s some useful information.
http://www.richardcarter.net/boat/deckRot/Regards
Rich
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June 28, 2010 at 6:04 pm #75672
kalinowski
ParticipantThanks for the info. I always want to get some info before I tear stuff apart (I’ve learned to temper my enthusiasm).
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June 30, 2010 at 9:21 pm #75687
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This is a common problem. Afew years ago the most famous 424 owner(dead) sent infromation on how to build a better seal for this hatch. I think I have that information, but unfortunately the boat is in Trinidad and I am in Ohio until next year. The Ownwers Association office should have it. Jim
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June 30, 2010 at 9:21 pm #75688
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This is a common problem. Afew years ago the most famous 424 owner(dead) sent infromation on how to build a better seal for this hatch. I think I have that information, but unfortunately the boat is in Trinidad and I am in Ohio until next year. The Ownwers Association office should have it. Jim
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July 1, 2010 at 11:34 am #75689
madsailor
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July 1, 2010 at 11:56 am #75690
john stevensonParticipantI assume he meant Hal Sutphen. The solution was to use weather stripping to
seal the sides of the hatch. It has worked for me for 8 years, but just
before I left the boat 3 weeks agoI noticed the hatch was leaking again.
Time re-bed and replace the stripping.On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Robert Fine <> wrote:
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July 1, 2010 at 1:56 pm #75693
RichCarterParticipantI assume we mean Ed. Merrick. Ed was a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure we all miss him. I remember the discussion. I searched through my email archive and could not find it.
I did something similar but not quite as elegant. It seems to work for me, but I’m sure his solution was better. The biggest improvement came from fixing the leaks under the hatch frame. Keeping the water from getting under the hatch slide is of little help if it leaks under the frame.
Rich
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July 1, 2010 at 2:02 pm #75694
madsailor
ModeratorThe biggest issue with that frame is to keep the drain holes clear –
standing water inside the outboard runner will eventually go somewhere and
not somewhere good.There could be more and bigger freeing holes on them.
Bob
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Quote:I assume we mean Ed. Merrick. Ed was a wealth of knowledge and I’m sure we
all miss him. I remember the discussion. I searched through my email archive
and could not find it.I did something similar but not quite as elegant. It seems to work for me,
but I’m sure his solution was better. The biggest improvement came from
fixing the leaks under the hatch frame. Keeping the water from getting under
the hatch slide is of little help if it leaks under the frame.Rich
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July 1, 2010 at 3:02 pm #75695
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Hal Sutphen is correct and he had nice drawings on how to do this and it worked great. I also made a canvas cover and canvas enclosure fro that hatch which helps a lot. Jim Roberts
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