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Does anyone know where I might find the best price deal on a Honda EU2000iA portable generator?
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Tor
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Now, why didn’t I think of that?
Thanks, Thatcher.
Tor
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Home Depot’s web site does not offer a Honda portable generator, but it does raise another question: They sell a similar unit under the brand name Honeywell. Amazon.com sells one called a Magna, which is rated 2600 watts. These look much like the Honda and seem to do pretty much the same thing, but they’re less expensive. Does anyone have any info on or experience with these other brands? Does it have to be a Honda to work?
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Tor
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Honda fair trades. I bought the magna for nonboat use. It’s been a good unit.
Thatcher
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The Honda is quiet and efficient on fuel. We bought one in the Internet, paid about $1000, no tax or shipping, for the companion model which has a 30 amp format socket for a shore power cord. This saves buying a 15 amp to 30 amp adapter, but this model does not have a 12 volt output for battery charging. Simply Google the Honda to find a dealer, and have it in a week.
Seems like a lot for a small generator, but cheaper than hiring the local diesel repair guy to fix the installed one. It seemed like everyone at the Vero Beach City Marina had that model. Everyone was happy with them.
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Thatcher,
Sorry, but I don’t understand your statement, “Honda fair trades.” Can you clarify that for me? Also, are you suggesting that the Magna might not be suitable for use on a boat, whereas the Honda is? If so, why?
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Tor
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By ‘fair trades’ I mean honda does not discount.
I have no knowledge about any gen like the magna or honda on a boat.
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Some stores work around the “fair trade” by providing several hundred
dollars of store credit, visa cards, etc as a rebate when you buy the
Honda generator.
We have such a sale going on here in Colorado for Father’s day, but I
imagine you want to find a unit closer to your boat.Pete
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Aha! Thanks.
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Pete,
It doesn’t much matter to me where the unit comes from if they’ll pay the shipping, and ordering from out of state saves me the sales tax. Fair trade or not, I found one place, Wana RV in Shipshewana, Indiana, that responded to my email query with a price of $875 for a EU2000i, with no sales tax and free shipping, while Camping World’s price was $1,000. I have some more research to do today, though, to compare Honda to the other brands. Also not clear on what the letters mean tagged onto the end of “EU2000,” such as “i,” “iA” and so on.
On one web site I noticed an optional Honda DC Charging Cord for the EU2000. They said it “charges automotive batteries from generator’s 12-volt outlet.” I’ll sometimes be using a generator to charge the boat’s house bank, but I only have a little 20A built-in charger. I figured I’d have to buy a bigger battery charger to go along with the generator, but if there’s a way to do that directly from the genset to the batteries that’d be a big plus. I need to find out (1) what kind of charger is built into the Honda, and (2) whether the other brands have this option.
Nothing’s ever simple.
Tor
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Tor,
There has been extensive discussions about exactly what you want to do with the Honda on SSCA web site. You don’t have to be a member to search. Jack Tyler a fellow 424 owner has a few thoughts on that also.
I believe there are issues with powering a 20 amp charger from that generator. I could be wrong though.
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Hi Tor,
I have a Honda 2000eu and I'm thrilled with it – even given my benign neglect it runs every time and I plug it into my AC shoreside inlet with an extension cord. With it I can charge my batteries through the regular charger (Xantrex Freedom 2000) and I can run my water heater (not at the same time). I've never used the 12vdc outlet because I can use the inverter on the Freedom.
I think I bought mine a couple of years ago for the same price/shipping thing you've found.
Here's the thing, in my opinion: You can purchase another make of generator. You'll save a hundred dollars, maybe. But when the chips are down and you need the generator, the Honda just runs and does what it's supposed to.
It also has a fuel saving mode – one tank will run the charger and the rest of the boat for 2-3+ hours. The non-energy saving mode will run the boat for about an hour. The tank is one gallon. It's quiet and it runs my hookah compressor just fine.
So, I like the Honda. I wanted the 3000, but it was twice the price! Two 2000's can be wired together for 4000 watts if you need it (and you have the special cable).
That's the one downside to the Honda – everything's extra….
Bob
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Alan < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Tor,
There has been extensive discussions about exactly what you want to do with the Honda on SSCA web site. You don't have to be a member to search. Jack Tyler a fellow 424 owner has a few thoughts on that also.
I believe there are issues with powering a 20 amp charger from that generator. I could be wrong though.
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It’s not that complicated.
You want the 2000 series because the 1000 is too small, and the 3000 is too big and heavy to store.
There are two models.
One has 15 amp sockets like your house and a 15 amp 12 volt battery charger built in. If you have a mulit-stage shore power battery charger, you can use that instead.
The other model (Companion) has a 30 amp socket so you can plug your shore power cord to it without an adapter. This model does not have a 12 volt output.
These generator are efficient and quiet because they are basically alternators and inverters. Engine speed varies with load.
An interesting feature is a cord that will tie together two generators (maybe three) to double the output. It appears that this requires a 30 amp socket either on the generator or on the cord.
$800 sounds about right for the 15 amp socket model. We got ours from a company named Wise. They shipped it in a heavy plain cardboard box. Some companies just put a shipping sticker on the Honda box which probably increases the chance it might disappear in transit.
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Bob,
I have a Xantrex 20 battery charger. I had hoped to power a bigger charger than that, but it seems the numbers will not allow it. I assume your Xantrex Freedom 2000 is also a 20-amp charger, so it appears the Honda EU2000 can at least manage that.
I’m also looking at the 2009 model Magna 3000 (2600 Watt) Portable Inverter Generator, on Amazon.com for $700:
[*]Low noise & light weight design (54-59 dB / 62 Lbs) with Econo Throttle [*]4 hours running on a single (1.75 gal.) fuel tank at full load and 8 hours at quarter load [*]Maximum 2,600W and rated 2,500W output for a wide range of applications [*]Built-in 30 AMP RV (TT-30) receptacle for direct plug in for most RVs. Pure Sinewave outputSo, same dB’s as the EU2000 and more power, but also more weight and higher gasoline consumption. I like the 30-amp plug. Figure I could just plug the boat’s shore power cord into it.
Still, the Honda has a 3 year warranty, as opposed to Magna’s 1 year, and there are Honda dealerships everywhere if the thing needs servicing. Decisions, decisions…
Tor
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Those of you who use a Honda unit, where do place it when you run it? I think because the cockpit drains exit below the waterline they would not vent any CO. I am thinking of using it on the swim platform but I am concerned about it being close to the salt water. Maybe I should just shut up and go sailing for a while and figure it out.
Linus
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Hi Tor and Linus,
Since I have every 30 amp to 20 amp/15 amp type of adapter known to man, I didn't get a 30amp connector one. The other advantage is that for beach parties I can bring the generator and run ice makers/reefers/guitar amps and so forth where you'd need an adapter, so you don't save anything there. But really, any small generator you go for will be fine. You'd be surprised how much power the Xantrex will pour into the batteries – remember, the 20amps is 20 amps AC, not DC. I've seen the 2000 put out 60+ amps DC loading the generator to about 12 amps. Really, if your batteries are that dead you have other problems.
I can also run the water heater with the 2000eu – but I have to turn off the charger. Still, a couple hours run I've got hot water and fully charged batteries (3- 4Ds and a group 31).
Linus, I generally put the generator up on the coach roof to run it. I have run it on the cockpit seat, too, as long as there's a good breeze. I've never died doing that. The generator has a low oxygen shutdown, too, I think.
The only place I won't run it is on the bridge deck or in the cabin (duh).
Good luck to both of you! You'll be happy as heck with a. a generator, and b. the Honda if that's what you get.
Bob
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Quote:Those of you who use a Honda unit, where do place it when you run it? I think because the cockpit drains exit below the waterline they would not vent any CO. I am thinking of using it on the swim platform but I am concerned about it being close to the salt water. Maybe I should just shut up and go sailing for a while and figure it out.
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We've had the Honda 2000 for 2 years.
Bought it from Mayberry.
It travels in the cockpit between the pedestal and mizzen mast covered by a plastic storage box from WallyMart (upside down). It has never slid around.
We run it on the foredeck (all hatches and ports closed) or in the dinghy tided beside the boat (preferred).
It always starts, is reasonably quiet and is efficient.Rick
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Quote:Hi Tor and Linus,Since I have every 30 amp to 20 amp/15 amp type of adapter known to man, I didn't get a 30amp connector one. The other advantage is that for beach parties I can bring the generator and run ice makers/reefers/guitar amps and so forth where you'd need an adapter, so you don't save anything there. But really, any small generator you go for will be fine. You'd be surprised how much power the Xantrex will pour into the batteries – remember, the 20amps is 20 amps AC, not DC. I've seen the 2000 put out 60+ amps DC loading the generator to about 12 amps. Really, if your batteries are that dead you have other problems.
I can also run the water heater with the 2000eu – but I have to turn off the charger. Still, a couple hours run I've got hot water and fully charged batteries (3- 4Ds and a group 31).
Linus, I generally put the generator up on the coach roof to run it. I have run it on the cockpit seat, too, as long as there's a good breeze. I've never died doing that. The generator has a low oxygen shutdown, too, I think.
The only place I won't run it is on the bridge deck or in the cabin (duh).
Good luck to both of you! You'll be happy as heck with a. a generator, and b. the Honda if that's what you get.
Bob
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Quote:Those of you who use a Honda unit, where do place it when you run it? I think because the cockpit drains exit below the waterline they would not vent any CO. I am thinking of using it on the swim platform but I am concerned about it being close to the salt water. Maybe I should just shut up and go sailing for a while and figure it out.
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