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i have a simpson lawrence horizon express that has stopped letting the chain down. it will still retrieve the chain, and i guess if it has to break that is the way i would prefer. i have taken the side cover off and found the bearings on the mail shaft to be bad. my question is even with the mail shaft out the second gear assemble will only turn in one direction. all the other bearings are called bearings but this one is call a clutch bearing. google says that a clutch bearing is a one way bearing so how can the windless go both ways if it can only turn in one direction. I hope this make sense and if anyone has any idea how this should work please let me know. i would like to understand this before i order parts.
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Howard,
Not sure it this applies to your situation, but does the electric motor even try to turn in the non-working direction? I believe my 2-way electric windlass reverses directions because the “anchor down” switch and the “anchor up” switch reverse the current to the motor. If your motor doesn’t run at all in one direction, perhaps that switch is bad. Those deck-mounted foot switches are supposed to be waterproof, but eventually seawater sometimes does get into them and corrode the contacts.
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Is this an electric windlass or manual? If electric, is it a reversing motor?
In any case, there should be a clutch release on the windlass. Its a nut with three prongs like they put on the hubs of old race cars. Loosen the nut and the clutch drops the chain.
Rich
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That doesn’t sound right. You should have a clutch release on the gypsy; otherwise, how are you supposed to operate the damn thing if your motor fails? My Lofrans has a clutch release for dropping the anchor and a manual handle for pulling it up. Good luck with the handle. It would take forever to retrieve an anchor.Over a period of years, the brushes on the motor will stick from corrosion. Assuming that yours is built similar to mine, the fix is pretty simple. Open up the motor housing and examine the brushes. You should see two pair, one for up and one for down. Use a test light or voltmeter to insure that power is getting to one brush when activated up and another when activated down. The other two should be ground and should not have any voltage on them when operating. Assuming that this checks out OK, remove the brushes. Removal can be difficult if they are corroded in place. Use needle-nose pliers to pull them out. A little PB blaster might help. Don’t lose the parts. Polish the brushes with fine sandpaper and reinsall the same way they came out. Oil on the motor amature isn’t always a good thing, so try and wipe it clean with some denatured alcohol. After servicing the motor, watch out! It will operate a lot faster than you are used to. If you damage a brush, bring it to a starter motor rebuilder. They should be able to match it. Mine are from a Bosche starter motor.
If power isn’t getting to the brushes properly, your problem is in the wiring, possibly a bad solenoid switch.
Hope this helps
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The electric motor works great. it has a silonoid that swithes polarity to reverse the motor. the problem is the second gear set that will not turn in the direction that the main shaft needs to turn in order for the chain to let out. i am not sure about the cluch set up. i will check into that, but looking at the main shaft the gipsy is on a shaft with a keyway so all the gears would have to turn in order for the chain to run out. i called Lewmar yesterday and they could not provide any information, the response was to buy a new windless, yours is obsolete. any way i think i will just replace that bearing anyway, 40$ for one bearing. i agree that a way to let out the chain without the motor should be an option and i have let it out by picking it up out of the gipsy and doing it by hand. retrieved it the same way. i will let you know the finding when i finally find out but if someone has one of these windlesses please chime in.
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I have 6.5 inch, flush mount speakers for the cockpit. Any suggestions on the best place for them?
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I would put them in the forward bulkhead, under the bridge deck. Low
traffic area so less likely to get stepped on and it doesn’t impact
storage and it is dead stupid simple to wire to.But that’s just me.
Bob
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If you put the speakers below the bridge deck, and are planning to sail off-shore, I would come up with some way to provide a water tight seal over the speakers. If you take green water into the cockpit, which I have, you don't want that seawater soaking through your speakers. My location recommendation would be the aft cockpit coaming, above the bench seat. You'll still need to provide covers for the speakers as they will still be exposed to rain and spray, but at least not submerged (until you are stepping up into your life raft).
You have to take my suggestions in the context that I decided not to install cockpit speakers. I use an iPod for music in the cockpit. Of course that means I don't share my music with others – let them get their own iPod. Maybe that has something to do with my current single-handed status. Anyway sharing of music is highly over-rated, IMO – having shared anchorages with boats with cockpit speakers I've been tempted to offer them the use of my iPod.On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Robert Fine < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:I would put them in the forward bulkhead, under the bridge deck. Low
traffic area so less likely to get stepped on and it doesn't impact
storage and it is dead stupid simple to wire to.But that's just me.
Bob
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Along those lines, I am going to mount my cockpit speakers under the Dodger or Bimini, but they’re the external box speakers, not the cutout mount in the wall kind.
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That’s what I have. Pyle 3 1/2″. How are yours wired?
-Adam Silverstein-iPhone (“trust everyone but cut the cards”)
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Quote:Along those lines, I am going to mount my cockpit speakers under the Dodger or Bimini, but they’re the external box speakers, not the cutout mount in the wall kind.-p
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Adam,
I think we all miss-read you when you said flush mount. We should have asked for more details on the speakers before offering mounting positions. I think Patrick has the best solution – under the Dodger. You might consider making the mounting removable, so the speakers can be stored below when you are not on the boat.On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:11 AM, adam silverstein < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:That's what I have. Pyle 3 1/2″. How are yours wired?-Adam Silverstein-iPhone (“trust everyone but cut the cards”)
On May 8, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Along those lines, I am going to mount my cockpit speakers under the Dodger or Bimini, but they're the external box speakers, not the cutout mount in the wall kind.
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Actually, that's where mine are – under the dodger. I, personally, don't like big holes in the cockpit or coaming. But as I thought they were flush-mount that a bulkhead was a good place.
Incidentally, the new marine speakers have plastic cones that really are waterproof. The cones are bonded to the frame forming a watertight membrane.
That said, I agree with John; I think if you want to listen to music in the cockpit, bring your own. I'd rather listen to the wind and water and birds and for things about to fail…
Bob
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:37 AM, John Stevenson < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Adam,
I think we all miss-read you when you said flush mount. We should have asked for more details on the speakers before offering mounting positions. I think Patrick has the best solution – under the Dodger. You might consider making the mounting removable, so the speakers can be stored below when you are not on the boat.On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 9:11 AM, adam silverstein < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:That's what I have. Pyle 3 1/2″. How are yours wired?-Adam Silverstein-iPhone (“trust everyone but cut the cards”)
On May 8, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Along those lines, I am going to mount my cockpit speakers under the Dodger or Bimini, but they're the external box speakers, not the cutout mount in the wall kind.
-p
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They are not mounted yet, but I plan to run the wire from the stereo which is in the shelf above the aft berth up under the headliner and then out to the cabin top. I’ll probably have a waterproof connection there so I can remove the speakers it I want.
I will be redoing the headliner when I rebed all the deck hardware so I will finish it then, right now I just have one of the aft speakers hooked up with the wire running free and I place it where I want when working above deck.
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Quote:That’s what I have. Pyle 3 1/2″. How are yours wired?-Adam Silverstein-iPhone (“trust everyone but cut the cards”)
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Quote:Along those lines, I am going to mount my cockpit speakers under the Dodger or Bimini, but they’re the external box speakers, not the cutout mount in the wall kind.-p
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FWIW, several speaker manufacturers make marine speakers designed to handle the worst. I have little speakers below in two places, and in the cockpit, two, one on either side, mounted in to the seat backs. I have a stereo radio, CD, Ipod connection and XM. I switch the speakers with a toggle switch. Â I have been pooped on offshore a few times and see no issue resulting.
It is sweet to have the music sounding good on your boat on a bright early Summer’s day.
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On Sea Duty Capt. Hal installed some small self contained cube speakers in the forward upper interior space in the coaming sheet storage area (that spot under the primaries your guests load up with stuff). They cannot be seen from the outside without sticking your face up into the opening. They provide ample volume and routinely get hit with the hose, and are out of the way. What I was thinking is it might be possible to mount your flush mount speakers facing down in the same space. The question is whether you can access the cavity above it.
If you'd rather not cut a hole (I wouldn't) then you might be able to mount the speaker on a fitted piece of teak and secure the whole unit up in there, facing downward. It's a pretty large void. Allow for drainage.
As much as I agree that music in an anchorage can sometimes be a downer, a rousing tune at sea can set the mood for the day. Capt. Bill on Charisma got the show going one am as we crossed the Gulf Stream with a selection from “Victory At Sea”. It set the tone for the eminent arrival and put an ear to ear grin on his face while playing… I also have a vivid memory of a Anegada sunrise with the sounds of Amazing Grace on the bagpipes lightly drifting in from another vessel. Having been a firefighter for 15+ years this was a moving moment that I was glad another boater shared with me.
ChuckOn Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
They are not mounted yet, but I plan to run the wire from the stereo which is in the shelf above the aft berth up under the headliner and then out to the cabin top. I'll probably have a waterproof connection there so I can remove the speakers it I want.
I will be redoing the headliner when I rebed all the deck hardware so I will finish it then, right now I just have one of the aft speakers hooked up with the wire running free and I place it where I want when working above deck.
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In the interest of honesty (and the odd chance that some of my old Chesapeake friends should gain access to this thread), I'll fess-up that I used to be one of those self-appointed DJs of the anchorage. My friends could relate the many nights of raft-ups when I entertained them with Puccini arias and Bob Dylan covers until the wee hours. I guess age and age-attitudes catch up with us all.
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Chuck Ruble < ([email][/email])> wrote:
On Sea Duty Capt. Hal installed some small self contained cube speakers in the forward upper interior space in the coaming sheet storage area (that spot under the primaries your guests load up with stuff). They cannot be seen from the outside without sticking your face up into the opening. They provide ample volume and routinely get hit with the hose, and are out of the way. What I was thinking is it might be possible to mount your flush mount speakers facing down in the same space. The question is whether you can access the cavity above it.
If you'd rather not cut a hole (I wouldn't) then you might be able to mount the speaker on a fitted piece of teak and secure the whole unit up in there, facing downward. It's a pretty large void. Allow for drainage.
As much as I agree that music in an anchorage can sometimes be a downer, a rousing tune at sea can set the mood for the day. Capt. Bill on Charisma got the show going one am as we crossed the Gulf Stream with a selection from “Victory At Sea”. It set the tone for the eminent arrival and put an ear to ear grin on his face while playing… I also have a vivid memory of a Anegada sunrise with the sounds of Amazing Grace on the bagpipes lightly drifting in from another vessel. Having been a firefighter for 15+ years this was a moving moment that I was glad another boater shared with me.
ChuckOn Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Patrick Walters < ([email][/email])> wrote:
They are not mounted yet, but I plan to run the wire from the stereo which is in the shelf above the aft berth up under the headliner and then out to the cabin top. I'll probably have a waterproof connection there so I can remove the speakers it I want.
I will be redoing the headliner when I rebed all the deck hardware so I will finish it then, right now I just have one of the aft speakers hooked up with the wire running free and I place it where I want when working above deck.
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