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My wife and I are wondering if there is a better toilet. We have a Raritan PH II, manual.
It has been rebuilt 6 times in 3 years of live aboard life plus 2 winters of 4 months cruising.
She wants a new one. I am of the opinion that saltwater is the culprit, not make or model.
What has been your experience??
Joe,
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Hi Joe,
I put one of those same toilets in Silverheels 5 years ago and (knock on
wood) it has worked flawlessly so far without a single rebuild. The
Bemis seat pins – those plastic “bolts” that hold the seat to the bowl
top – broke from large crew members sitting there offshore when the boat
was rolling heavily, but I pestered Bemis into sending me a couple of
replacement sets. Otherwise, I’ve been happy with my Raritan PH II.BTW, I pour a dollop of vegetable oil into the bowl every once in a
while, give it a few pumps so the oil coats the inner workings, and let
that sit until the next time I use the head. I also store it that way if
I’m leaving the boat for a while. It seems to help keep the rubber parts
moist and the action smooth. I also rub a little Teflon grease on the
pump’s external shaft occasionally when it starts squeaking.One final note. On most boats the head compartment stinks. Of course,
offshore a standing man may miss a little and splash the area around the
toilet, so that needs to be cleaned up at the end of each trip. But the
long term culprit is simply that people don’t pump enough times when
they flush. It’s really worthwhile to figure out how many pumps it takes
to purge the discharge hose COMPLETELY, and make that the rule. Most
people just pump enough to clear the bowl and that’s why the head always
smells.Good luck,
Tor
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One other suggestion: When you’re preparing the boat for long-term
storage, flush the toilet thoroughly with freshwater so there isn’t any
salt sitting in the system while you’re away. Once it’s well rinsed,
then pump in that dollop of vegetable oil.Tor
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Hi Tor,
We do all of the tips you mentioned. Still we get what seems like the beginning of a coral reef on the joker and the flapper, and the piston gasket wears too quickly.
We have also experienced cracking of the plastic pump housing, at the base. Perhaps due to vigorous pumping action after a #2.
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You could go to a composting head. See article here:
http://www.dublerfamily.com/Regina%20Oceani/Ar … ov2011.pdf
No jokers on my boat!
Pete
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Quote:Hi Tor,We do all of the tips you mentioned. Still we get what seems like the beginning of a coral reef on the joker and the flapper, and the piston gasket wears too quickly.
We have also experienced cracking of the plastic pump housing, at the base. Perhaps due to vigorous pumping action after a #2.Joe,
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yep..did that.
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I’m looking forward to reading this.
Thanks,
Tor
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Sounds like you got a Friday toilet and I lucked out and got a
Wednesday.😉
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Don’t read it on the head. They say that’s bad for hemorrhoids…
On 12/1/2012 9:01 AM, Silverheels wrote:Quote:I’m looking forward to reading this.Thanks,
Tor
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Tor got back to you first, but I agree with everything he says. I rebuilt
mine when I bought Pelican in June 2007 and have lived aboard ever since
with no problem. You can pay more for a head and you can pay less, but the
PH II is sturdy, easily rebuildable, and well supported. I wouldn’t
replace it with anything else.I’m surprised you had to rebuild it so often.
As far as men missing the bowl goes, I have only one real rule on my boat –
everyone sits. I don’t care about manly feelings. You stand, you spray –
it’s pure physics. You want to stand you’ll clean the head daily. I know
there’s a lot of people who don’t agree.As Tor said, make sure you flush thoroughly. Mine takes about 6 or 7
pumps. If it’s going to the holding tank, I use fresh water to flush and
only two or three pumps.Also, if you have those white hoses to and from the head, I find wiping
them down with the Clorox wipes every year or so helps keep them from
smelling.I know that John Stevenson has a composting head he really likes – you can
search through the mail list for the links. The big advantage is the lack
of plumbing and stuff. Disadvantages are the need for a small fan to run
(which, truthfully, draws very little power), and dealing with the liquid
waste separately. But he swears by it. So you could look into that.Bob
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Hi Joe,I put one of those same toilets in Silverheels 5 years ago and (knock on
wood) it has worked flawlessly so far without a single rebuild. The
Bemis seat pins – those plastic “bolts” that hold the seat to the bowl
top – broke from large crew members sitting there offshore when the boat
was rolling heavily, but I pestered Bemis into sending me a couple of
replacement sets. Otherwise, I’ve been happy with my Raritan PH II.BTW, I pour a dollop of vegetable oil into the bowl every once in a
while, give it a few pumps so the oil coats the inner workings, and let
that sit until the next time I use the head. I also store it that way if
I’m leaving the boat for a while. It seems to help keep the rubber parts
moist and the action smooth. I also rub a little Teflon grease on the
pump’s external shaft occasionally when it starts squeaking.One final note. On most boats the head compartment stinks. Of course,
offshore a standing man may miss a little and splash the area around the
toilet, so that needs to be cleaned up at the end of each trip. But the
long term culprit is simply that people don’t pump enough times when
they flush. It’s really worthwhile to figure out how many pumps it takes
to purge the discharge hose COMPLETELY, and make that the rule. Most
people just pump enough to clear the bowl and that’s why the head always
smells.Good luck,
Tor
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Bob,
There was a Jack Nicholson movie years ago in which his dominating wife
made him sit on the toilet to pee, for the same reason you have that
rule on your boat. There was a great scene when, right after the wife
passed away, Nicholson goes into the bathroom to take a leak. He starts
to sit, suddenly remembers that his bitchy wife is no longer there,
begins peeing in the toilet standing up, and then slowly turns around
360° while continuing to urinate, a triumphant grin on his face. He was
reclaiming his manhood and marking his territory. Great scene.Not all guys are as secure in their manhood as you, Bob. They want to
stand. Of course, the captain’s rules are the law, so on your boat they
sit. Just hope one of them doesn’t someday feel compelled to reassert
his manhood and mark his territory.🙂
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Tor,
It’s only in racing you’re required to return with the same number of crew
you started with. Once again, if you must stand, you must clean the head
daily. That’s the penalty for asserting your manhood.Also: I’d rather have women aboard anyway. Then the problem disappears.
Easy solution. Also, they’re easier to look at…😉
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Bob,There was a Jack Nicholson movie years ago in which his dominating wife
made him sit on the toilet to pee, for the same reason you have that
rule on your boat. There was a great scene when, right after the wife
passed away, Nicholson goes into the bathroom to take a leak. He starts
to sit, suddenly remembers that his bitchy wife is no longer there,
begins peeing in the toilet standing up, and then slowly turns around
360° while continuing to urinate, a triumphant grin on his face. He was
reclaiming his manhood and marking his territory. Great scene.Not all guys are as secure in their manhood as you, Bob. They want to
stand. Of course, the captain’s rules are the law, so on your boat they
sit. Just hope one of them doesn’t someday feel compelled to reassert
his manhood and mark his territory.🙂
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+1 for the composting toilet…. Sooooo simple.
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Quote:You could go to a composting head. See article here:http://www.dublerfamily.com/Regina%20Oceani/Ar … ov2011.pdf
No jokers on my boat!
Pete
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Quote:Hi Tor,
We do all of the tips you mentioned. Still we get what seems like the beginning of a coral reef on the joker and the flapper, and the piston gasket wears too quickly.
We have also experienced cracking of the plastic pump housing, at the base. Perhaps due to vigorous pumping action after a #2.
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…left too long (two weeks), however, vinegar will dissolve or damage the
seals and valves. I have a GROCO & know from personal experience. And
rebuilding one of those is a royal pain which I happily pay them to do every 3
to 4 years (nine months liveaboard / yr). When this happened after the
vinegar “soak” they sent me the old parts to illustrate just what the vinegar
had done. Otherwise, it is an great, although expensive, head.BILL TICE~in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake, VA
In a message dated 12/1/2012 6:45:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:I always pump some white vinegar through the head and let it set when I
leave the boat for a while. Doing this once a month keeps the “coral build
up” off of the joker valve and inner workings.Dan Kalinowski
Jolly Lama #135
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Vinegar will destroy brass and bronze – both of which are easily attacked
by acids. The PH II is all plastic except for the weight on the flapper
and the pump rod which is stainless steel. It’s also really easy to
rebuild.But vinegar for short periods does remove the calcium and salts that plate
out on rubber parts. Just don’t leave it in for more than a couple of
hours.Bob
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…left too long (two weeks), however, vinegar will dissolve or damage the
seals and valves. I have a GROCO & know from personal experience. And
rebuilding one of those is a royal pain which I happily pay them to do
every 3
to 4 years (nine months liveaboard / yr). When this happened after the
vinegar “soak” they sent me the old parts to illustrate just what the
vinegar
had done. Otherwise, it is an great, although expensive, head.BILL TICE~in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake, VA
In a message dated 12/1/2012 6:45:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:I always pump some white vinegar through the head and let it set when I
leave the boat for a while. Doing this once a month keeps the “coral
build
up” off of the joker valve and inner workings.Dan Kalinowski
Jolly Lama #135
Ko Olina, O’ahu
m2f
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What kind of head?
I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 2, 2012 1:36 AM, “kalinowski” wrote:Interesting. I left my boat several times for a month with white vinegar
in the head. Never had a problem.Dan Kalinowski
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There are many different brands of toilets available at Budget marine..the PH II is by far the most expensive. The Jabsco, for instance is half the price.
So is the Raritan really better than all the rest..normally you get what you pay for.
I do see the PH II to be reasonably easy to repair, but I have no experience with other brands.
I guess the bottom line is a function of good maintenence….flush with fresh water at times, pour some oil at times, maybe some dilute vinegar at times..flush well.
Thanks for your input!
Joe,
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From my experience with the two you mention, the PH II is a far superior
unit. It is easily rebuildable, but goes for years without needing it.
Not so much the jabsco. Besides, the jabsco’s valving has a bunch of
fiddly bits that are not obvious in their reassembly. Imho.I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
On Dec 2, 2012 6:39 AM, “Joseph Steiner” wrote:Quote:There are many different brands of toilets available at Budget marine..the
PH II is by far the most expensive. The Jabsco, for instance is half the
price.
So is the Raritan really better than all the rest..normally you get what
you pay for.
I do see the PH II to be reasonably easy to repair, but I have no
experience with other brands.
I guess the bottom line is a function of good maintenence….flush with
fresh water at times, pour some oil at times, maybe some dilute vinegar at
times..flush well.Thanks for your input!
Joe,
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*On the subject of avoiding sewage line clogs I recommend not flushing the
TP. Initially I used that procedure only for off-shore passages, not
wanting to have to clear a blockage while underway. I bought a package of
paper lunch bags and everyone deposited their TP in one and threw it
overboard when finished. Eventually I avoided flushing TP even when
dockside. I placed a small waste basket next to the toilet and emptied it
periodically with other garbage.
Now that I have a composting toilet I am no longer concerned about sewage
line clogs, but I still want to reduce the volume in the compost bin. If I
had a holding tank I would want to do the same.
Everytime I’ve had to clear a sewage clog I found TP at the clog point.
Calcium buildup in the lines was usually the real cause, but it was the TP
that formed the clog.*
Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Robert Fine wrote:
Vinegar will destroy brass and bronze – both of which are easily attacked
by acids. The PH II is all plastic except for the weight on the flapper
and the pump rod which is stainless steel. It’s also really easy to
rebuild.But vinegar for short periods does remove the calcium and salts that plate
out on rubber parts. Just don’t leave it in for more than a couple of
hours.Bob
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM, wrote:
…left too long (two weeks), however, vinegar will dissolve or damage
the
seals and valves. I have a GROCO & know from personal experience. And
rebuilding one of those is a royal pain which I happily pay them to do
every 3
to 4 years (nine months liveaboard / yr). When this happened after the
vinegar “soak” they sent me the old parts to illustrate just what the
vinegar
had done. Otherwise, it is an great, although expensive, head.BILL TICE~in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake, VA
In a message dated 12/1/2012 6:45:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:I always pump some white vinegar through the head and let it set when I
leave the boat for a while. Doing this once a month keeps the “coral
build
up” off of the joker valve and inner workings.Dan Kalinowski
Jolly Lama #135
Ko Olina, O’ahu
m2f
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I do the same thing regarding toilet paper, John, ever since a guest
asked me to remind him how the toilet flushes. When I went into the WC,
I saw that he had used an unbelievable amount of paper, so much that it
was piled in the bowl up to and above the lid! I suppose that’s his
habit at home – who’d have thought, or cared to know? – but it made me
realize the danger of turning visitors (including crew) loose in the
head. From that moment on I maintained the no-paper-in-the-toilet rule
both in port and underway.Tor
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We have an ample supply of zip-lock bags for the same reason.
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While on the topic… On our boat, no one is allowed to pee over the
rail, including the girls!What’s the one common feature of almost all sailors found dead after
falling overboard?
Their pants flys are down.Pete
On 12/1/2012 10:59 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Bob,There was a Jack Nicholson movie years ago in which his dominating wife
made him sit on the toilet to pee, for the same reason you have that
rule on your boat. There was a great scene when, right after the wife
passed away, Nicholson goes into the bathroom to take a leak. He starts
to sit, suddenly remembers that his bitchy wife is no longer there,
begins peeing in the toilet standing up, and then slowly turns around
360° while continuing to urinate, a triumphant grin on his face. He was
reclaiming his manhood and marking his territory. Great scene.Not all guys are as secure in their manhood as you, Bob. They want to
stand. Of course, the captain’s rules are the law, so on your boat they
sit. Just hope one of them doesn’t someday feel compelled to reassert
his manhood and mark his territory.🙂
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I often share that open fly story with new crew when we’re heading out
to sea, but then let everyone do what they feel comfortable doing
(although I do strongly recommend peeing to leeward). To me it’s like
wearing a seat belt in a car. I do, but I resent the government telling
me I have to.Happily, each of us gets to make our own rules on our own boats. It’s
“right” or “wrong” because the captain says it is. Or as Monte Python
once put it, “It’s good to be King.”Tor
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Ah yes! And the King gets to sit on the throne!
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Actually, in that scene the King pinched the bottom of a pretty lady of
the court. She spun around ready to slap the offender, saw it was the
King, and simply curtsied and said, “Good morning, your Highness.”
That’s when the King turned to the camera with a merry leer and said,
“It’s good to be King.”I concur.
Tor
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On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:49 PM, “” wrote:
…left too long (two weeks), however, vinegar will dissolve or damage the
seals and valves. I have a GROCO & know from personal experience. And
rebuilding one of those is a royal pain which I happily pay them to do every 3
to 4 years (nine months liveaboard / yr). When this happened after the
vinegar “soak” they sent me the old parts to illustrate just what the vinegar
had done. Otherwise, it is an great, although expensive, head.BILL TICE~in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake, VA
In a message dated 12/1/2012 6:45:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:I always pump some white vinegar through the head and let it set when I
leave the boat for a while. Doing this once a month keeps the “coral build
up” off of the joker valve and inner workings.Dan Kalinowski
Jolly Lama #135
Ko Olina, O’ahu
m2f
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Madsailor: the head on my Pearson is a PH II. I’ve left white vinegar in it for up to 4 Weeks when I’m off island and have had no problems. Of course, there’s always tomorrow. I also have a Jabsco on my powerboat back in Atlanta. I’ve rebuilt both and concur, the PH II is a better unit.
I am also of the school that nothing goes in the head unless you’ve eaten it first. I keep a small trash can in each head for TP. The designated “King or Queen” for the day gets to dispose of the contents during head cleanup.
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Ahemm. On our boat, Regina Oceani, (queen of the ocean), we say “It is
good to be the queen” and “It is great to be aboard the Queen”On 12/2/2012 9:44 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Actually, in that scene the King pinched the bottom of a pretty lady of
the court. She spun around ready to slap the offender, saw it was the
King, and simply curtsied and said, “Good morning, your Highness.”
That’s when the King turned to the camera with a merry leer and said,
“It’s good to be King.”I concur.
Tor
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I agree Dan, the PHII and probably the Jabsco as well because the wet parts
with the exception of the flapper weight (which I don’t think the Jabsco
has but I could be wrong) are stainless steel that isn’t affected by acids,
at least weak ones. The Groco, as I remember, is not plastic and rubber
but mostly bronze and brass with rubber seals. Bronze an brass are both
affected by weak acids which is why you don’t see bronze or brass coffee
pots. Also, they taste bad, but that’s not an issue with heads. Grocos
are good heads, and very expensive, but easily rebuilt. If I had one I’d
do everything to keep it, but wouldn’t purchase one if I needed a new one.Bob
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Madsailor: the head on my Pearson is a PH II. I’ve left white vinegar in
it for up to 4 Weeks when I’m off island and have had no problems. Of
course, there’s always tomorrow. I also have a Jabsco on my powerboat back
in Atlanta. I’ve rebuilt both and concur, the PH II is a better unit.I am also of the school that nothing goes in the head unless you’ve eaten
it first. I keep a small trash can in each head for TP. The designated
“King or Queen” for the day gets to dispose of the contents during head
cleanup.Dan Kalinowski
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… a matter of opinion then, I suppose.
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Isn’t everything? 🙂
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… a matter of opinion then, I suppose.
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“punish me, Captain, punish me!!”
We’ve sat on this toilet thread much too long!BILL TICE~in residence ~*I*I*TREEHOUSE *I*I*I*~ Smith Mt. Lake, VA
In a message dated 12/2/2012 4:55:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
writes:petedd: I just had to smile as I remembered Belushi’s skit aboard the
“Raging Queen”.Dan Kalinowski
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So, anyone know any good toilet jokes?
(Just kidding.)
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Just this true story:
There is a little sign available at many boat stores that states-
“Do not put anything in this marine toilet unless you have eaten it first.”
To which one Captain I know couldn’t resist adding-
“For your convenience, the Captain has provided mint-flavored toilet paper.”
The sign came down when one female guest complained that the paper wasn’t at all minty. We never did figure out if she was bluffing. -
Was she blond?
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Perfect.
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For what could be the very best sign, see the link to the article I sent
earlier in this string.Pete
On 12/3/2012 7:11 AM, quent wrote:
Just this true story:
There is a little sign available at many boat stores that states-
“Do not put anything in this marine toilet unless you have eaten it first.”
To which one Captain I know couldn’t resist adding-
“For your convenience, the Captain has provided mint-flavored toilet paper.”
The sign came down when one female guest complained that the paper wasn’t at all minty. We never did figure out if she was bluffing._______________________________________________
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@Joseph Steiner wrote:
My wife and I are wondering if there is a better toilet. We have a Raritan PH II, manual.
It has been rebuilt 6 times in 3 years of live aboard life plus 2 winters of 4 months cruising.
She wants a new one. I am of the opinion that saltwater is the culprit, not make or model.
What has been your experience??
Joe, saltwater reacts with the products from our bodies and does result in more odor and acidic damage to equipment and hoses than a fresh water sourced toilet. The PH II is pretty standard example of a basic pump style head. The pump can be rebuilt and can also be replaced as a complete unit. Usually the pump isn’t the source of smell but mostly nuisance leaks. A leak in the wrong plumbing can be more than a nuisance. A weeping leak may never be seen, as it can dry up before traveling far. It still stinks.
BTW, I don’t rebuild pumps for customers, a new pump is cheaper to install than disassembling and replacing all the innards. Even then they still sometimes leak.
The usual culprit is the hoses. They become permeated over time. If a hose has a tacky feel, it’s way past gone and the boat probably smells like lilacs and poop. Lilac seems to be the universal air freshener applied to this situation for some odd reason.
Hose runs should never hold/trap effluent. Ideally all hose runs should be downhill to the holding tank. Often in a boat this not possible. Any runs that will hold product till the next flush can be replaced with schedule 40 PVC. Usually this is best done where a stack leading to a top loaded holding tank that is parallel or higher than the head. A vented loop will create the same situation.
On holding tanks. All fitting at the top. ALL FITTINGS AT THE TOP.
Tank vents must be maintained, a full tank with a clogged vent can be ruptured at a fitting or boss by a user that is unaware of the physics of putting something in a space without first removing something. Vents can be filtered too, these are expensive (yet they work wonderfully) and will be ruined if the tank is overfilled to the point where the vent becomes full.
My ideal setup for a light cruiser, bay sailor, have the friends on board type of boat…
Vacuflush system with a small holding tank, say 25 gallons.
Con: System does use dc power and fresh water and does require annual maintenance.
Pro: You’ll not find yourself face to face with the last movement of the crew member that simply can’t grasp the marine head concept.
No smell. Uses only about a quart per flush (you can make it use less).
Do the math, 25 gallon tank, 60-80 flushes before emptying.This is nice for the cruising crowd that chooses not to dump in the same anchorage the kids are swimming in. Go for a sail, empty the tank.
The composting head gets some weird looks from people, simply out of ignorance. For a boat that spends a lot of time at or around marina’s it probably doesn’t make sense as it would turn off potential buyers, once again ignorance. “No honey, I want to store all my poop on board in a tank, not some icky system that has coconut peat in it”.
What do I have: nothing the head is gutted right now but Pete sold me on the airhead and that is going in this winter. I’ve met so many cruisers that use these and are happy with it I decided to try it out. All my plumbing was foul, before I replaced it I thought I’d try the ‘garden variety’…
Joe, if the Vacuflush system interests you I have a new bowl and vacuum generator if you are interested. Neither have been installed. The plumbing on the toilet is side discharge on the left side (seen while sitting on the throne). I was going to put the vacuum generator under the sink.
Hope this helps.
Chuck
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Thanks for a very in-depth response Chuck.
In my situation, departing from Trinidad enroute to North Carolina, I will stick with my PH II. I just need to flush with fresh water more often and use oil more often. I think that will reduce the coral reef formation in my joker and flapper and keep the toilet working properly longer between rebuilds. I patched the crack in the pump housing with a 2 part epoxy and that is holding up well.
I don’t have a smell problem, having replaced all my pipes 6 years ago before departing from NC. We do use a muriatic acid ( very dilute ) flush once a year. I’m not sure how effective that is..it’s very dilute…but smell is not an issue on this boat.
My main question was whether or not to buy a new toilet, and if so, which kind. I have my answer. I’ll stay withwhat I have. I do have a vacuflush on my other boat which lives in fresh water and I love it. But I don’t see that option as practical on Half Moon and the area we sail.
thanks,
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