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    • #67542
      Anonymous

      I’ve got a Lofrans electric windlass with a control box mounted high up in the chain locker. I’ve just
      discovered that the terminals on this box – connecting the power in, ground, foot switches and power to the
      windlass motor – are gunked up and, in fact, shorted out with the kind of green corrosion you find on
      neglected battery terminals. Anybody know the best stuff to put on those terminals once they’re cleaned up, to
      prevent a recurrence?

      Tor
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    • #72854
      john stevenson
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      Tor,
      Other than moving the control box out of the locker (I assume not practical) you might try encasing the contacts in silicone.

      On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      I've got a Lofrans electric windlass with a control box mounted high up in the chain locker. I've just
      discovered that the terminals on this box – connecting the power in, ground, foot switches and power to the
      windlass motor – are gunked up and, in fact, shorted out with the kind of green corrosion you find on
      neglected battery terminals. Anybody know the best stuff to put on those terminals once they're cleaned up, to
      prevent a recurrence?

      Tor
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    • #72855
      RichCarter
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      Tor
      There’s a spray coating made specifically for battery terminals. Its usually blue or red in color and is sticky. I think I last purchased it from Walmart. If they don’t have it, try an auto-parts place.

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    • #72857
      Anonymous

      If you mean silicone sealant, I tend to avoid using that stuff. Inevitably I find myself having to service the fitting on which I put it, and then there’s hell to pay. Very difficult to clear away once it’s set up.

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    • #72858
      Anonymous

      I KNEW you’d know, Rich. Thanks.

      FYI, I looked it up in “The 12-Volt Bible for Boats” while I was waiting to hear back from the group. In the section on Battery Maintenance and Tools the author suggested, “A little petroleum jelly or oil will help to prevent future corrosion.”

      Tor
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    • #72859
      madsailor
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      To amplify your comment, Tor, silicone is not adhesive – it is a compressive sealant (like a gasket but much more annoying).  Slathering a terminal with the stuff will not only make servicing difficult but will also guarantee that corrosion will take place out of sight resulting in a failure at the most inappropriate time.  Silicone really has no place on a boat except, perhaps, a dab on the end of cotter pins on the pins that hold the standing rigging turnbuckles to the chainplates.  I know there's a name for those pins but am having a brain fart and cannot remember what they're called.

      Rich's recommendation is spot on.

      Bob

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      I KNEW you'd know, Rich. Thanks.

      FYI, I looked it up in “The 12-Volt Bible for Boats” while I was waiting to hear back from the group. In the section on Battery Maintenance and Tools the author suggested, “A little petroleum jelly or oil will help to prevent future corrosion.”

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    • #72861
      Hull152_Patrick
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      I have been wondering about this myself and while petroleum jelly is recommended (some say grease others say no to grease, so go with no) the idea of something that can smear all over things isn’t appealing to me. There is a commercial product call NCP-2 which is widely available from a variety of stores. Defender sells it in a kit with a terminal cleaner. This link has the best picture of the product: http://www.sbsbattery.com/subpage_index.php?_subp_=114

      I’ll probably stop in at my local auto parts store and see what they’re selling as well and just go with that.

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      Owners no more...
      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #72863
      Anonymous

      That looks like the right kind of stuff, Pat. Rich’s suggestion also sounds like it would do the trick. Unfortunately, for this round I’m limited to what’s already on board. I’m anchored out, the dinghy’s in the davits and I’m too lazy – too busy fixing things, actually – to make the expedition to town to buy something. So I’m using Vaseline petroleum jelly on my windlass control box terminals, as per “The 12-Volt Bible for Boats.” Guess I’ll know in a few months how well it works. Next shopping trip I’ll pick up some of the more advanced stuff.

      Speaking of miracle goops, I “discovered” Lanacote rust and corrosion protection a few months ago when I was putting stainless bolts into aluminum. They say you can remove the screw years later as easily as day one. Truly, THIS is the golden age of sail.

      Tor
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    • #72864
      Paul Lefebvre
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      Tor:

      I am pretty sure John was probably talking about using silicone grease, which is pretty good for protecting electrical connections, among other things:

      http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/silicone.htm

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    • #72865
      Anonymous

      You can get a large tube of “dielectric grease at an auto parts store in
      the electrical dept. Small tubes are expensive, large tubes are cheap…

      I also like to wrap connections with CoaxSeal, a self-adhering tape.
      Good price on it from AllElectronics.com

      Pete

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      Tor:

      I am pretty sure John was probably talking about using silicone
      grease, which is pretty good for protecting electrical connections,
      among other things:

      http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/silicone.htm

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    • #72866
      john stevenson
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      Yes, I was not referring to silicone sealant as found in WM stores, but a dielectric compound.  I can't remember the name of the stuff I've used in the past, I think I picked it up at an electrical supply house.  It may not be the best choice for this application, but I'm also not sure that the spray on battery terminal stuff will be that effective in the wet, corrosive atmosphere of your anchor locker.

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      I am pretty sure John was probably talking about using silicone grease, which is pretty good for protecting electrical connections, among other things:

      http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/silicone.htm

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    • #72867
      Anonymous

      Will wonders never cease? That looks like great stuff. Thanks, Paul.

      Tor
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    • #72872
      sumocean
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      I’ve used the terminal sealant sold by auto part stores and it is red and nasty. I’m addicted to spray lithium grease. Easy to reapply and clean up. The red stuff is sticky and runs, yuck.

      Linus

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    • #72873
      Anonymous

      Darn! Wish I’d thought of lithium grease yesterday. I have some aboard and could’ve used it instead of Vaseline.

      Oh, well, next time. Now at least I’ll get to find out for myself how well the old home remedy works.

      Tor
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    • #72874
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Hi Tor,

      Vaseline will do the job nicely – as well as lithium grease. Don’t
      regret using it. It’s also easier to clean off if you need to.

      Bob

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      Darn! Wish I’d thought of lithium grease yesterday. I have some aboard and
      could’ve used it instead of Vaseline.

      Oh, well, next time. Now at least I’ll get to find out for myself how well
      the old home remedy works.

      Tor
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    • #72875
      Anonymous

      Thanks, Bob. I have few regrets in my life; using Vaseline has never been one of them.

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    • #72876
      madsailor
      Moderator

      I, for one, cannot wait to meet you, Tor!

      On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:

      Thanks, Bob. I have few regrets in my life; using Vaseline has never been one of them.

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    • #72878
      sumocean
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      OK now you boys are starting to scare me!

      Linus

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    • #72879
      Anonymous

      Welcome to the club. I’ve been scaring myself for decades.

      Tor
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