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    • #68692
      Anonymous

      Several in this group have recommended using 90W oil in the V-drive,
      claiming the heavier oil makes the drive much quieter. Is this any
      particular kind of 90W oil, or just oil that says 90W on the label?

      Thanks,

      Tor


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    • #79269
      madsailor
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      Just heavy duty 90 weight gear oil. That said, Walter does not recommend
      heavy oil. I replaced mine with the 30 wt oil and noticed only a small
      increase in noise level. But try it. It didn’t seem to hurt my drive.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On Mar 26, 2013 1:43 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:

      Several in this group have recommended using 90W oil in the V-drive,
      claiming the heavier oil makes the drive much quieter. Is this any
      particular kind of 90W oil, or just oil that says 90W on the label?

      Thanks,

      Tor


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    • #79270
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      Do you mean you tried 90W, and then changed to 30W and ” noticed only a
      small increase in noise level?”

      Tor



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    • #79271
      Anonymous

      I once had a slow leak around the seal where the shaft attaches to the drive, in Fronteras, Guatemala. Replacing the seal was not an option. A local mechanic said to relpace the 30w with 90w. The leak stopped and when I returned to our yard in Waukegan, Illinois, just north of Chicago, after a long slog through the Erie Canal under power and no leaks, I had them repair the drive. Some years later it was rebuilt at the factory in New Jersey with no apparent damage from the long use with 90w oil. After I reinstalled the drive I had the yard set the alignment, after a full day and night in the water. I suspect the seal leaks resulted from failure to properly align the drive. Because she was sold soon after that last repair, I dno’t know if any new leaks occured.
       
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    • #79272
      madsailor
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      When I got the boat it had 90 wt oil. To make my life easier and to only
      have two types of oil aboard, I tried 30 wt which increased the high
      frequency sound but not much. At least that was my experience. Also, my
      prop freewheels so the noise is constant.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On Mar 26, 2013 2:14 PM, “Silverheels” wrote:

      Quote:
      Bob,

      Do you mean you tried 90W, and then changed to 30W and ” noticed only a
      small increase in noise level?”

      Tor



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    • #79277
      Anonymous

      I can only find reference to SAE 30 wt, non-detergent motor oil in any of Google searches.
       
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    • #79278
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Rotella at Walmart and Advance Auto will work.

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On Mar 27, 2013 9:35 AM, “Joseph Steiner” wrote:

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      I can only find reference to SAE 30 wt, non-detergent motor oil in any of
      Google searches.

      Joe,
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    • #79279
      petedd
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      I have heard of folks using 30wt diesel engine oil for everything on the
      boat: engine, v-drive, AND tranny. The trannys we use don’t “shift”
      like the ones in our cars. They only do fwd, neutral, and rev. So, a
      clean tranny (as in right after a rebuild) can use the 30wt engine oil
      instead of transmission fluid. I wish I had done this when I rebuilt
      my tranny (which by the way is a very easy job) (I do have gear oil in
      my windlass though).

      Pete

      On 3/27/2013 7:28 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:

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      I can only find reference to SAE 30 wt, non-detergent motor oil in any of Google searches.

      Joe,
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    • #79280
      Anonymous

      Man, I carry all kinds of oils:

      Yanmar Engine

      Rotella 15w-40 motor oil – 5.5 quarts / change

      BioBor diesel fuel treatment/preservative

      Paragon Transmission

      Ford Type F automatic transmission fluid – 2-3 quarts / change

      Walter V-Drive

      SAE 30 heavy-duty motor oil like Exxon XD-3 – 1 quart / change

      Honda Generator

      10w-30 detergent oil for 4-stroke engines – .45 quart / change

      Yamaha Outboard Motor

      2-cycle engine oil – .25 quart (8 oz.) / 3 gallons gasoline

      Sta-Bil gasoline treatment/preservative

      Tor



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    • #79281
      petedd
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      And don’t forget the old oil from the last oil change at sea…
      and WD-40, liquid wrench, spray silicon, drislide, mclube,…

      On 3/27/2013 9:39 AM, Silverheels wrote:

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      Man, I carry all kinds of oils:

      Yanmar Engine

      Rotella 15w-40 motor oil – 5.5 quarts / change

      BioBor diesel fuel treatment/preservative

      Paragon Transmission

      Ford Type F automatic transmission fluid – 2-3 quarts / change

      Walter V-Drive

      SAE 30 heavy-duty motor oil like Exxon XD-3 – 1 quart / change

      Honda Generator

      10w-30 detergent oil for 4-stroke engines – .45 quart / change

      Yamaha Outboard Motor

      2-cycle engine oil – .25 quart (8 oz.) / 3 gallons gasoline

      Sta-Bil gasoline treatment/preservative

      Tor



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    • #79282
      Anonymous

      I actually included a “Chemicals to Carry” section in my “Ready for Sea!”
      book. It lists about 4-dozen “must have” items. That was in 2002. I’ll bet I
      could add another 1 or 2 dozen products now.

      Tor


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    • #79283
      madsailor
      Moderator

      It depends on your transmission. Only the Paragon will use 30 wt oil, I
      believe.

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On Mar 27, 2013 11:21 AM, “Pete Dubler” wrote:

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      I have heard of folks using 30wt diesel engine oil for everything on the
      boat: engine, v-drive, AND tranny. The trannys we use don’t “shift” like
      the ones in our cars. They only do fwd, neutral, and rev. So, a clean
      tranny (as in right after a rebuild) can use the 30wt engine oil instead of
      transmission fluid. I wish I had done this when I rebuilt my tranny
      (which by the way is a very easy job) (I do have gear oil in my windlass
      though).

      Pete

      On 3/27/2013 7:28 AM, Joseph Steiner wrote:

      Quote:
      I can only find reference to SAE 30 wt, non-detergent motor oil in any of
      Google searches.
      Joe,
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    • #79284
      Adam Silverstein
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      Rotella 30 weight. I put that s**t in everything.

    • #79285
      Hull152_Patrick
      Spectator

      That’s what they recommended for my high-mileage RV this summer. Funny
      thing, it was not with the other oil at the auto store. It was in a special
      “more expensive” section. The sales dude said all the truckers used it.

      -p

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      On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Adam Silverstein wrote:

      Rotella 30 weight. I put that s**t in everything.


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      Owners no more...
      Thanks Dawn and Patrick!

    • #79286
      madsailor
      Moderator

      That’s it! Three Transmissions:

      – Hurth – ribbed and squarish. Can freewheel, locks in reverse – uses
      ATF
      – Paragon – hydraulic – cannot freewheel because of insufficient
      lubrication – uses ATF, don’t know about oil.
      – Velvet Drive – hydraulic – happily freewheels, should not be left in
      gear – uses ATF or 30 wt. oil

      Bob

      On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:16 AM, Patrick Walters wrote:

      That’s what they recommended for my high-mileage RV this summer. Funny
      thing, it was not with the other oil at the auto store. It was in a special
      “more expensive” section. The sales dude said all the truckers used it.

      -p

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      On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Adam Silverstein <

      wrote:

      Rotella 30 weight. I put that s**t in everything.


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    • #79287
      Anonymous

      That’s great info, Bob. Thanks. I hope I never have to change trannies, but
      if I do I’ll get a Hurth for the lock-in-reverse feature, plus the option of
      freewheeling to generate electrical power.

      Tor


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    • #79288
      madsailor
      Moderator

      You’re welcome. There was a huge, long discussion a few years ago on the
      mailing list about this and this was the takeaway. Glad I could help.

      Bob

      On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Silverheels wrote:

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      That’s great info, Bob. Thanks. I hope I never have to change trannies, but
      if I do I’ll get a Hurth for the lock-in-reverse feature, plus the option
      of
      freewheeling to generate electrical power.

      Tor


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