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    • #68821
      Miss Kathleen
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      Hi All,

      Just replaced a portion of the bulkhead around the chain plates and also the floor area inside the forepeak locker on the port side.

      At the same time I crack tested all the chainplates – and they were good, however, on reinstallation one of the heads of a bolt broke off. Result – new bolts!

      Generally the sealing around the plates was good and I took the opportunity to fill the area around the chainplates with epoxy. No more water will enter the deck area around the chainplates.

      It was hard to believe that a leaking chainplate could result in so much damage. In the end, on evaluation, it was another item that caused the damage.

      The water tank vent pipe fitting.

      To replace the portion of bulkhead I had to remove quite a few items, and one of these was the water tank vent – which in my case is simply a pipe fitting jammed into a hole in the deck with some silicon for sealing. This is then covered with a small piece of teak to prevent salt water entering under rough conditions.

      I guess that over the years when the tanks were filled the water would come out the vent pipe and then straight onto the bulkhead and then drain down to the bilges inside the forward locker.

      I am going to re-route both port and starboard overflow pipes to the upper anchor locker. Easy to monitor when filling, and no worries about salt water entering the pipe.

      Maybe you folk have already addressed this issue, but if not, it would be prudent to do a check on the vent fitting.

      Cheers

      Dennis

    • #80363
      madsailor
      Moderator

      I moved all my vents to the bilge because I was tired of getting my clothes
      wet every time I filled my tanks. Be careful about moving the vents to the
      deck because the fiberglass tanks are not rated for much pressure – moving
      the vent 2-4 feet above the tank results in a pressure of 1.5 to 2.0 psi.
      They could fail.

      Bob

      On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Miss Kathleen wrote:

      Hi All,

      Just replaced a portion of the bulkhead around the chain plates and also
      the floor area inside the forepeak locker on the port side.

      At the same time I crack tested all the chainplates – and they were good,
      however, on reinstallation one of the heads of a bolt broke off. Result –
      new bolts!

      Generally the sealing around the plates was good and I took the
      opportunity to fill the area around the chainplates with epoxy. No more
      water will enter the deck area around the chainplates.

      It was hard to believe that a leaking chainplate could result in so much
      damage. In the end, on evaluation, it was another item that caused the
      damage.

      The water tank vent pipe fitting.

      To replace the portion of bulkhead I had to remove quite a few items, and
      one of these was the water tank vent – which in my case is simply a pipe
      fitting jammed into a hole in the deck with some silicon for sealing. This
      is then covered with a small piece of teak to prevent salt water entering
      under rough conditions.

      I guess that over the years when the tanks were filled the water would
      come out the vent pipe and then straight onto the bulkhead and then drain
      down to the bilges inside the forward locker.

      I am going to re-route both port and starboard overflow pipes to the upper
      anchor locker. Easy to monitor when filling, and no worries about salt
      water entering the pipe.

      Maybe you folk have already addressed this issue, but if not, it would be
      prudent to do a check on the vent fitting.

      Cheers

      Dennis

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    • #80364
      Miss Kathleen
      Participant

      Bob,

      Good point. The vents are currently located in the coaming and I was thinking of moving the outlet to the anchor locker.

      On second thoughts your option returning the outlet to the bilge, maybe with a siphon break, will be a better idea, and simplet to install.

      Anything is better than overflow water at the bottom of lockers, over clothes, or into the bulkheads.

      Cheers

      Dennis

    • #80365
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Lest you think that the 424 is the only Pearson to vent water tanks into
      blind spaces or clothing drawers, it’s not. The 35 and others did the same
      thing.

      The idea was to have the cushions off and look through the inspection plate
      to ensure the tanks didn’t overflow. But when you need to remove 8
      cushions and pull out a bunk the sense of that is lost.

      I put steel plates over the holes and made sure the vent was only high
      enough to keep the tanks from emptying while heeled. About 18″. That
      minimizes the tank pressure. Also it gets the bilge washed every so often.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my cell phone and I detest typing on it.
      On Nov 25, 2013 6:07 PM, “Miss Kathleen” wrote:

      Bob,

      Good point. The vents are currently located in the coaming and I was
      thinking of moving the outlet to the anchor locker.

      On second thoughts your option returning the outlet to the bilge, maybe
      with a siphon break, will be a better idea, and simplet to install.

      Anything is better than overflow water at the bottom of lockers, over
      clothes, or into the bulkheads.

      Cheers

      Dennis

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    • #80366
      Tor
      Participant

      My water tank vents have never been a problem because I
      dare not fill my tanks. That’s because I have never
      managed to adequately seal the inspection ports. I
      installed all new O-rings in the plastic ports Pearson
      put in, but they still leak when the tanks are full. Of
      course, I could seal those holes so nothing ever gets
      through them, but I need easy-open inspection ports for
      periodic cleaning and, well, inspecting – checking
      water levels and dirt accumulation.

      My solution has been to avoid filling the tanks to the
      brim. I watch/feel through an open inspection port when
      taking on freshwater and stop when the level reaches
      about an inch below the tank top. It’s a modest PIA,
      but it works. Of course, this way the tank vents never
      come into play at all, so I haven’t bothered to
      rearrange them.

      Has anyone found a quick-opening water tank port cover
      that doesn’t leak?

      Tor


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