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    • #69103
      Anonymous

      Bob, I suspect your staysail is larger than mine, so you’re
      getting more out of it. Do you recall how far aft its deck
      fitting is from the stemhead?

      When I laid out my staysail rig, I wanted to leave enough slot
      for the genoa to tack through (without quick-releasing the inner
      forestay) and also keep the inner forestay well clear of the
      anchor windlass. Aloft I attached it beneath the radar mount,
      which itself was a somewhat arbitrary position assignment with no
      thought (then) of adding a staysail in the future. As a result, I
      created a relatively small staysail. I often fly it along with
      the genoa, but doubt whether it’s adding much power other than
      that of the additional slot. In a gale the boat still prefers at
      least a scrap of (deeply roller-reefed genoa) jib forward to sail
      decently. I’ve managed to avoid full storms at sea since adding
      the staysail, so have not tested it out as a stand-alone storm
      headsail, let alone reefed down to a storm jib. Yet these were
      the main points in favor of adding the staysail in the first
      place (aside from the fact that it looks cool), because I
      wouldn’t trust a roller-reefed genoa in a violent storm.

      All & all, now that I have a staysail I’m glad I do. (As CR said,
      “If it’s gonna’ happen, it’ll happen out there.”) But I agree
      with Alan that a second, inner headsail, whether staysail or
      Solent, isn’t necessary for typical Caribbean cruising.

      Tor


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    • #82409
      Anonymous

      Hi Tor,

      My staysail goes from the aft bulkhead of the anchor locker (forward
      bulkhead of v-berth) to about 4 feet above the spreaders on the main mast.
      It’s not large, but it really does help. And tacking with it up is much
      easier than when it’s not because it feeds the jib around the stay.

      My sheet is a very simple system (one line) that basically just adjusts the
      tension on the clew. Not fancy, auto tacking, and leaves a fair twist in
      the sail, but it does the job.

      Also: Looks pretty.

      I know my headsail is much smaller than yours at about 120%.

      Bob

      On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
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      Bob, I suspect your staysail is larger than mine, so you’re
      getting more out of it. Do you recall how far aft its deck
      fitting is from the stemhead?

      When I laid out my staysail rig, I wanted to leave enough slot
      for the genoa to tack through (without quick-releasing the inner
      forestay) and also keep the inner forestay well clear of the
      anchor windlass. Aloft I attached it beneath the radar mount,
      which itself was a somewhat arbitrary position assignment with no
      thought (then) of adding a staysail in the future. As a result, I
      created a relatively small staysail. I often fly it along with
      the genoa, but doubt whether it’s adding much power other than
      that of the additional slot. In a gale the boat still prefers at
      least a scrap of (deeply roller-reefed genoa) jib forward to sail
      decently. I’ve managed to avoid full storms at sea since adding
      the staysail, so have not tested it out as a stand-alone storm
      headsail, let alone reefed down to a storm jib. Yet these were
      the main points in favor of adding the staysail in the first
      place (aside from the fact that it looks cool), because I
      wouldn’t trust a roller-reefed genoa in a violent storm.

      All & all, now that I have a staysail I’m glad I do. (As CR said,
      “If it’s gonna’ happen, it’ll happen out there.”) But I agree
      with Alan that a second, inner headsail, whether staysail or
      Solent, isn’t necessary for typical Caribbean cruising.

      Tor


      Silverheels, P-424 #17
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    • #82411
      Anonymous

      Bob,

      Not too different, then. Ground zero for my staysail stay is just 4″ aft of that bulkhead, and tied into it via a massive L-bracket & strut. I couldn’t figure out a satisfactory single-sheet arrangement at the time, so went with a pair along the edges of the coachhouse. I very rarely tack that sail anyway (since I rarely day-sail), so that’s a non-issue for me. Offshore and inter-island the staysail pretty much flies all the time, with the jenny & main getting reefed around it as needed. The sail itself feels underpowered, but otherwise I’m happy with the installation.

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    • #82413
      Anonymous

      That’s my experience as well – not a powerful sail at all but it makes a
      huge difference when used in conjunction with the other sails. I’m sure an
      aeronautical engineer could explain it, but for now, I’ll just use it.

      I’ve tried sailing with just the mizzen and staysail in maybe 20kts and no
      go there. I suspect in a big breeze it might be a bit more effective. That
      big a breeze I’d like to avoid, however.

      Bob

      On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Silverheels via maillist <
      > wrote:

      Quote:
      Bob,

      Not too different, then. Ground zero for my staysail stay is just 4″ aft
      of that bulkhead, and tied into it via a massive L-bracket & strut. I
      couldn’t figure out a satisfactory single-sheet arrangement at the time, so
      went with a pair along the edges of the coachhouse. I very rarely tack that
      sail anyway (since I rarely day-sail), so that’s a non-issue for me.
      Offshore and inter-island the staysail pretty much flies all the time, with
      the jenny & main getting reefed around it as needed. The sail itself feels
      underpowered, but otherwise I’m happy with the installation.

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