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Bob, I suspect your staysail is larger than mine, so you’re
getting more out of it. Do you recall how far aft its deck
fitting is from the stemhead?When I laid out my staysail rig, I wanted to leave enough slot
for the genoa to tack through (without quick-releasing the inner
forestay) and also keep the inner forestay well clear of the
anchor windlass. Aloft I attached it beneath the radar mount,
which itself was a somewhat arbitrary position assignment with no
thought (then) of adding a staysail in the future. As a result, I
created a relatively small staysail. I often fly it along with
the genoa, but doubt whether it’s adding much power other than
that of the additional slot. In a gale the boat still prefers at
least a scrap of (deeply roller-reefed genoa) jib forward to sail
decently. I’ve managed to avoid full storms at sea since adding
the staysail, so have not tested it out as a stand-alone storm
headsail, let alone reefed down to a storm jib. Yet these were
the main points in favor of adding the staysail in the first
place (aside from the fact that it looks cool), because I
wouldn’t trust a roller-reefed genoa in a violent storm.All & all, now that I have a staysail I’m glad I do. (As CR said,
“If it’s gonna’ happen, it’ll happen out there.”) But I agree
with Alan that a second, inner headsail, whether staysail or
Solent, isn’t necessary for typical Caribbean cruising.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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Hi Tor,
My staysail goes from the aft bulkhead of the anchor locker (forward
bulkhead of v-berth) to about 4 feet above the spreaders on the main mast.
It’s not large, but it really does help. And tacking with it up is much
easier than when it’s not because it feeds the jib around the stay.My sheet is a very simple system (one line) that basically just adjusts the
tension on the clew. Not fancy, auto tacking, and leaves a fair twist in
the sail, but it does the job.Also: Looks pretty.
I know my headsail is much smaller than yours at about 120%.
Bob
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Silverheels via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:Bob, I suspect your staysail is larger than mine, so you’re
getting more out of it. Do you recall how far aft its deck
fitting is from the stemhead?When I laid out my staysail rig, I wanted to leave enough slot
for the genoa to tack through (without quick-releasing the inner
forestay) and also keep the inner forestay well clear of the
anchor windlass. Aloft I attached it beneath the radar mount,
which itself was a somewhat arbitrary position assignment with no
thought (then) of adding a staysail in the future. As a result, I
created a relatively small staysail. I often fly it along with
the genoa, but doubt whether it’s adding much power other than
that of the additional slot. In a gale the boat still prefers at
least a scrap of (deeply roller-reefed genoa) jib forward to sail
decently. I’ve managed to avoid full storms at sea since adding
the staysail, so have not tested it out as a stand-alone storm
headsail, let alone reefed down to a storm jib. Yet these were
the main points in favor of adding the staysail in the first
place (aside from the fact that it looks cool), because I
wouldn’t trust a roller-reefed genoa in a violent storm.All & all, now that I have a staysail I’m glad I do. (As CR said,
“If it’s gonna’ happen, it’ll happen out there.”) But I agree
with Alan that a second, inner headsail, whether staysail or
Solent, isn’t necessary for typical Caribbean cruising.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
http://www.silverheels.us
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Bob,
Not too different, then. Ground zero for my staysail stay is just 4″ aft of that bulkhead, and tied into it via a massive L-bracket & strut. I couldn’t figure out a satisfactory single-sheet arrangement at the time, so went with a pair along the edges of the coachhouse. I very rarely tack that sail anyway (since I rarely day-sail), so that’s a non-issue for me. Offshore and inter-island the staysail pretty much flies all the time, with the jenny & main getting reefed around it as needed. The sail itself feels underpowered, but otherwise I’m happy with the installation.
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That’s my experience as well – not a powerful sail at all but it makes a
huge difference when used in conjunction with the other sails. I’m sure an
aeronautical engineer could explain it, but for now, I’ll just use it.I’ve tried sailing with just the mizzen and staysail in maybe 20kts and no
go there. I suspect in a big breeze it might be a bit more effective. That
big a breeze I’d like to avoid, however.Bob
On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Silverheels via maillist <
> wrote:Quote:Bob,Not too different, then. Ground zero for my staysail stay is just 4″ aft
of that bulkhead, and tied into it via a massive L-bracket & strut. I
couldn’t figure out a satisfactory single-sheet arrangement at the time, so
went with a pair along the edges of the coachhouse. I very rarely tack that
sail anyway (since I rarely day-sail), so that’s a non-issue for me.
Offshore and inter-island the staysail pretty much flies all the time, with
the jenny & main getting reefed around it as needed. The sail itself feels
underpowered, but otherwise I’m happy with the installation.Post generated from Pearson424 Forum using Mail2Forum
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