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The icebox in the 424 is nice because it holds a huge amount of stuff. I can pack enough food and beverages in there to last a week or more. Getting stuff out is a different matter. I’ve used plastic storage boxes with some success, but I haven’t been able to locate boxes that fit properly. I have engine-driven refrigeration. The evaporator is mounted under the counter-top. I found one plastic tub that came from a large cooler that fits perfectly under there, but I’ve had no success in finding more. Pearson originally fit a sliding shelf in the icebox but I don’t find it of any use. The whole thing was poorly conceived. I suppose that the proper thing to do is to pull the countertop and start over. Since I have refrigeration, this would be a huge job.
I was in Walmart yesterday and saw the wire shelf linked below.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Grayline-Large-Helper-Shelf-in-White/16635747At first, it didn’t seem useful but on second thought I came up with a plan and took one home. I cut off the legs and glued the rubber feet over the exposed wire ends. This makes a wire-rack that’s a perfect fit for the shelf in the cooler. Plastic storage boxes can be placed on the shelf two rows high. Below the shelf I can store beverages. If you do the same thing, measure the width of the shelf in your fridge first. Mine is 16.25″ wide but no two boats are the same. I carefully cut the legs off with a hack-saw, leaving as much of the remaining wire as possible. The result is a wire rack precisely 16.25″ long. I’ll likely buy another and make a wider shelf.
There’s a dam across the bottom of the ice-box. I have no idea why Pearson did this. I have a hand-pump to drain the bottom of the fridge, but water collects behind the dam making it difficult to get dry. Its under the evaporator so condensation collects there. I’ve considered cutting it out, but it would be a PIA to glass over. A better plan would be to fill-in the pan and raise the ice-box floor. I’m thinking that a small piece of styrofoam dock flotation cut to size would work, but I don’t want to buy a huge and expensive foam block. Has anyone done this? What did you use for foam?
Rich
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Rich,
I fought the same problems with my frig, which is much smaller than those
on P424s with the U-Shaped galley. My solution was to build custom baskets
that fit the shape of the frig. You can’t really see the baskets in this
picture, http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/Images/Frig%20Baskets%201.JPG, but I
can now remove the entire contents of the frig in 4 baskets: the two small
non-custom ones you see at the bottom of the picture, a tall one on which
those baskets are sitting and a long low one that sits under the freezer
compartment. What appears to be a basket at the top of the picture is a
shelf built into the out wall of the frig compartment.I built the baskets and the shelf out of vinyl-covered wire mesh material
intended for making crab pots. The baskets are held together with plastic
wire ties. They’ve worked well for about 9 years.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:27 AM, wrote:
The icebox in the 424 is nice because it holds a huge amount of stuff. I
can pack enough food and beverages in there to last a week or more.
Getting stuff out is a different matter. I’ve used plastic storage boxes
with some success, but I haven’t been able to locate boxes that fit
properly. I have engine-driven refrigeration. The evaporator is mounted
under the counter-top. I found one plastic tub that came from a large
cooler that fits perfectly under there, but I’ve had no success in finding
more. Pearson originally fit a sliding shelf in the icebox but I don’t
find it of any use. The whole thing was poorly conceived. I suppose that
the proper thing to do is to pull the countertop and start over. Since I
have refrigeration, this would be a huge job.I was in Walmart yesterday and saw the wire shelf linked below.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Grayline-Large-Helper-Shelf-in-White/16635747At first, it didn’t seem useful but on second thought I came up with a
plan and took one home. I cut off the legs and glued the rubber feet over
the exposed wire ends. This makes a wire-rack that’s a perfect fit for the
shelf in the cooler. Plastic storage boxes can be placed on the shelf two
rows high. Below the shelf I can store beverages. If you do the same
thing, measure the width of the shelf in your fridge first. Mine is 16.25″
wide but no two boats are the same. I carefully cut the legs off with a
hack-saw, leaving as much of the remaining wire as possible. The result is
a wire rack precisely 16.25″ long. I’ll likely buy another and make a
wider shelf.There’s a dam across the bottom of the ice-box. I have no idea why
Pearson did this. I have a hand-pump to drain the bottom of the fridge,
but water collects behind the dam making it difficult to get dry. Its
under the evaporator so condensation collects there. I’ve considered
cutting it out, but it would be a PIA to glass over. A better plan would
be to fill-in the pan and raise the ice-box floor. I’m thinking that a
small piece of styrofoam dock flotation cut to size would work, but I don’t
want to buy a huge and expensive foam block. Has anyone done this? What
did you use for foam?Rich
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John
The storage locker next to the sink is what we use for storing canned-goods and beverages. The locker is about 18″ deep and has an access door to is what we call the wine-cellar below. When packing for an extended trip, we store extra cases of beverages down there. There’s quite a lot of room down there.Rich
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Unfortunately that locker is the frig on the 424s with the L-shaped
galley. There is a tall and narrow locker between the frig and the stove,
under the drawers I use for cutlery and cooking utensils. I’ve kept pots
and pans in that locker, but now that I think about it I haven’t used any
of those pans in over a year. It would make an excellent wine locker,
which would free up most of the huge locker behind the starboard settee aft
back rest.
Finding and arranging storage is an endless quest.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM, wrote:
Quote:John
The storage locker next to the sink is what we use for storing
canned-goods and beverages. The locker is about 18″ deep and has an access
door to is what we call the wine-cellar below. When packing for an
extended trip, we store extra cases of beverages down there. There’s quite
a lot of room down there.Rich
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While on the subject of containers for the frig, here is a pic of a plastic
pitcher I picked up at Costco over this winter.
http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/Images/Techniques/2012_0607Pitcher0001.jpgI don’t remember the brand or the cost, but since it was Costco it was
sold only in pairs. This was the Jacksonville Costco. It may not be
available at all stores.It has been the frig beverage container I’ve been looking for a long time.
It’s got a gasket seal on the screw down top, so it won’t leak even when
inverted and it holds more than a liter. It is really great for making
sun-tea (as shown in the picture). I just throw in 6-8 tea bags, fill it
with water, close the top and then let it sit on deck for an hour or so.
With the wide mouth it is easy to scoop out the tea bags and put the
pitcher in the frig.
It also has a handle on the top so it is easy to pull out of the bottom of
the frig.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:55 AM, John Stevenson wrote:
Quote:Unfortunately that locker is the frig on the 424s with the L-shaped
galley. There is a tall and narrow locker between the frig and the stove,
under the drawers I use for cutlery and cooking utensils. I’ve kept pots
and pans in that locker, but now that I think about it I haven’t used any
of those pans in over a year. It would make an excellent wine locker,
which would free up most of the huge locker behind the starboard settee aft
back rest.
Finding and arranging storage is an endless quest.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:44 AM, wrote:
Quote:John
The storage locker next to the sink is what we use for storing
canned-goods and beverages. The locker is about 18″ deep and has an access
door to is what we call the wine-cellar below. When packing for an
extended trip, we store extra cases of beverages down there. There’s quite
a lot of room down there.Rich
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All of that wasted vertical space in the u-shaped galley fridge. I’ve considered fabricating 2 rolling plexiglass shelves to take the place of the original single fiberglass shelf in there. They would roll to starboard for access from above.
I usually store beer on the port side of the floor dam as it is probably the coldest place in the box. Stacked horizontally, you can put in at least a 12 pack of longnecks with no fear of rolling about. However, you have to have Cheeta’s arms to get them out.
We store soft drinks in the cubby under the stove. Leaving them in their 12 pack boxes allows several flavors to fit in there. The angle of the hull makes them self feed to the door opening for easy access.
I also installed an access door on the outside starboard face of the ice box cabinet, to take advantage of all the space under the drawers. This is a great place for a beer locker.
Dan Kalinowski
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