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Dan,
Hasn’t happened to me – yet, but I can think of several options short of
having a tang re-welded to the rail.1. You can replace the tang with one that mechanically fastens to the rail.
I use a couple for the lead blocks on my Monitor control lines. I thought I
purchased them from MarinePartsDepot, but I can’t find it in their online
catalogue. I’ll send a pic if you are interested.
2. Put a padeye on the rear coaming.On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:48 AM, kalinowski <>wrote:
After some aggressive sailing off of Diamond Head, the tang that holds the
mizzen sheet block on the taff rail managed to part. I guess its just old
and stressed metal.Has anyone else had this problem and how did you meet the challenge?
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Dan,
Assuming the rail tubing is sound and the tang parted at the weld, why not
just have the tank welded back on? After all, the first weld held for 30
years.Tor
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On a different yet related subject.
Last winter I had Mack Sails pull my mast and boom and refurbish them – new
paint, lines, rivets, winches, sheaves, etc.The folks from Mack reported that several of the tangs on the top of the mast
were beginning to fail.lee
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Dan,
A pad eye on the combing (with a backing plate) could work, but first I’d
rig a length of line from that point to the sheet block bale on the boom and
check the line’s run with the mizzen boomed all the way out to port and
starboard. Seems like the sheet will lay hard across the pushpit railing
when you’re reaching, snagging anything you have mounted there.Tor
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Lee: Curious as to how many boat units the spars refurbishing cost. Can you give a directional?
I guess I’m approaching that costly line in the sand when you’re done fixing existing problems and move to fixing anticipated ones as we get Lady Leanne ready for some extended offshore work.
Dan Kalinowski
Lady Leanne II (#135)
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If there is enough meat there you could bolt on a new eye to the nub.
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:03 AM, kalinowski <>wrote:
Tor: Interestingly, the weld on the tang held. It snapped in half
horizontally across the hole. I filed down the rough edges for obvious
reasons.I kind of like the idea of a pad eye on the rear coming if I can keep it
out of the way.Dan Kalinowski
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
True, you could bold on new tang to the stub of the old one, but I believe
welding would be stronger. Quicker, too, compared to boring through
3/16″-inch stainless steel with a hand-held drill, twice.
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This may sound crazy. I have been lookin at reworking the mizzen sheet assembly with a traveler / sheet system. I have noticed alot of lift and twist in the mizzen boom. I have been looking at a basic unit from Garhauer.
http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=34
I think the mt-3 would work…Eric Lorentzon
Navasana
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Quote:True, you could bold on new tang to the stub of the old one, but I believe
welding would be stronger. Quicker, too, compared to boring through
3/16″-inch stainless steel with a hand-held drill, twice.
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Dan,
Since you are at a point where you can replace the existing rig or re-work
it, here are my suggested solutions.1. Grind off the broken tang and weld a replacement
2. Grind off the broken tang and replace with a mechanically attached
tang (one of my previous suggestions). This is probably stronger than the
welded tang (IMO)
3. Replace the sheeting of mizzen to either of the solutions above with a
3:1 tackle. This frees up the mizzen sheet winch for a more useful use
(even a 98 Lb weakling can handle the mizzen sheet without a winch.
4. Do 3, above, but attach the tackle to a padeye on the coaming. This
provides better leverage on the cam cleat on the tackle.I still have the welded tang, but I went with a 3:1 Tackle on mizzen and no
longer use the winch for the sheet.
http://www.svsarah.com/Sarah/ewUpgradeDeckRig.htm#Running_Rigging_-_Mizzen_MastOn Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:01 PM, S V Navasana <> wrote:
This may sound crazy. I have been lookin at reworking the mizzen sheet
assembly with a traveler / sheet system. I have noticed alot of lift and
twist in the mizzen boom. I have been looking at a basic unit from Garhauer.
http://garhauermarine.com/catalog_process.cfm?cid=34
I think the mt-3 would work…Eric Lorentzon
Navasana
Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 14, 2010, at 4:19 PM, “SilverHeels” <> wrote:
True, you could bold on new tang to the stub of the old one, but I
believe
Quote:welding would be stronger. Quicker, too, compared to boring through
3/16″-inch stainless steel with a hand-held drill, twice.
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Yesterday a fellow on the adjacent dock told me we are no longer required to
have a ship’s bell.Is this true? If so what, if any thing, replaces the bell?
Lee
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http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf
<http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf>-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Lee Yonkers <> wrote:
Yesterday a fellow on the adjacent dock told me we are no longer required
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have a ship’s bell.Is this true? If so what, if any thing, replaces the bell?
Lee
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Thanks Dawn and Patrick! -
Well, there you have it. No bell. But if you did have one, it should be an
8″ bell, not a 6″ one (that was the requirement for our size vessel).Having sailed in some serious fog, though, I can tell you I’ve never heard a
ship’s bell. Air horns, breath powered or electronic horns, etc., etc. but
never bells. I’ve often wondered about that as they sound too similar to
buoys. But I guess, before modern sound making technology there were only
bells.I like my Standard radio that does all the sound making for me.
It’s nice to know the USCG is keeping up.
Bob
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Good link. Thanks.
Does the following mean that flares are no longer required if you have a
flag and a night signaling device?*Minimum of three day-use and three night-use or three day/night
combination pyrotechnic devices. Non-pyrotechnic substitutes: 1 orange
flag (day-use) and 1 electric S-O-S signal light (night-use)*Pete
On 11/16/2010 3:43 AM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf
<http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf>-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Lee Yonkers<> wrote:
Yesterday a fellow on the adjacent dock told me we are no longer required
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have a ship’s bell.Is this true? If so what, if any thing, replaces the bell?
Lee
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That’s the way I read it although it’s inland rules. To be honest, I carry
both the flares and flag. The SOS light better be a pretty powerful,
self-contained unit if you’re in trouble.Remember, the USCG is minimum requirements. I carry the SOLAS flare set.
Bob
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Pete Dubler <> wrote:
Good link. Thanks.
Does the following mean that flares are no longer required if you have a
flag and a night signaling device?*Minimum of three day-use and three night-use or three day/night
combination pyrotechnic devices. Non-pyrotechnic substitutes: 1 orange flag
(day-use) and 1 electric S-O-S signal light (night-use)*Pete
On 11/16/2010 3:43 AM, Patrick “Peaboy” Walters wrote:
http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf
<http://www.usps.org/national/vsc/conductvsc_files/USCGMinReq.pdf>-p
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s/v Deep Playa | Pearson 424 Hull #152 | http://www.DeepPlaya.comOn Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Lee Yonkers<> wrote:
Yesterday a fellow on the adjacent dock told me we are no longer required
to
have a ship’s bell.Is this true? If so what, if any thing, replaces the bell?
Lee
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Dan, I am so sorry to be so late in responding to your question.
I dug out my records and this is what Mack Sails charged:
1. Pull and prep mast: $1,700
2. Paint spars: $4,000
3. Upper tangs replaced: $250What the invoice doesn’t list was all of the small and not so small things they
did to make the job top notch. The paint job is incredible.Lee
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I can vouch for that!
I’m not being short. This is from my mobile.
On Nov 17, 2010 1:00 PM, “Lee Yonkers” <> wrote:Dan, I am so sorry to be so late in responding to your question.
I dug out my records and this is what Mack Sails charged:
1. Pull and prep mast: $1,700
2. Paint spars: $4,000
3. Upper tangs replaced: $250What the invoice doesn’t list was all of the small and not so small things
they
Quote:did to make the job top notch. The paint job is incredible.Lee
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