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OK so I am definitely not the old salt that most of you guys are. I did my first splice with no problem at home with a piece of chain and some nylon three strand line. When I worked on the actual anchor rode I made a longer splice and tapered one strand at a time after eight tucks. It flows through the windlass fine but I seemed to be crossing up the strands as I taper at the end of the splice. I normally will be anchor in less than twenty feet of water so I carry eighty feet of chain and 300′ of rope. I will just run out the chain and have my snubber built in. My question is if I got six or eight tucks without messing up the splice should be locked in right? Maybe some of the Toss veterans can answer this question. I am going to use a trip bouy for sure so I won’t lose the anchor should the splice part. I have the same setup without the splice as a back up that I will probably set for the first couple of times with some slack so I can test out the splice. I may be just a little too paranoid.
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Linus,
IMO, 6 or 8 tucks is probably sufficient. I don't really remember how many I put on my chain splice. I now carry 275' of chain, so the splice has yet to appear through the deck pipe. Before my main tackle was 50' of 3/8″ chain and 400' of 5/8″ rope. I used the same built-in snubber by normally putting out all of the chain. What type of splice did you use on the chain? I use a crown splice and I think about 8 tucks. I didn't bother with tapering the tucks. I doubt you will need the anchor bouy in the event of a splice failure, but it may come in handy if you have to cut loose the anchor to get out of anchorage quickly. The buoy may save having to replace the anchor.On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 6:46 PM, sumocean < ([email][/email])> wrote:
OK so I am definitely not the old salt that most of you guys are. I did my first splice with no problem at home with a piece of chain and some nylon three strand line. When I worked on the actual anchor rode I made a longer splice and tapered one strand at a time after eight tucks. It flows through the windlass fine but I seemed to be crossing up the strands as I taper at the end of the splice. I normally will be anchor in less than twenty feet of water so I carry eighty feet of chain and 300' of rope. I will just run out the chain and have my snubber built in. My question is if I got six or eight tucks without messing up the splice should be locked in right? Maybe some of the Toss veterans can answer this question. I am going to use a trip bouy for sure so I won't lose the anchor should the splice part. I have the same setup without the splice as a back up that I will probably set for the first couple of times with some slack so I can test out the splice. I may be just a little too paranoid.
Linus
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Morning Glory’s engine compartment is filthy. When I bought the boat it was filthy and I have put off cleaning it primarily because I don’t know what kind of cleaner/solvent products I should use. I am tied to a dock and I don’t want to dump any bad stuff into the water. I bought a small pressure washer to clean off the bird droppings that might also come in handy cleaning the engine compartment.
Any suggestions that will make this job a little easier and environmentally friendly will be greatly appreciated.
Lee
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John
I don’t know of a name other than a chain to rope splice. I just followed the instructions on the samson web site. I just added the taper as suggested by a friend. I think my problem is I’ve been working on the boat and not using it. I am a little paranoid of everything being new and I am a rookie again.
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Linus,
Now the feeling, I've been sitting at the dock in New Bern since the middle of June. I hate to think of the things that can go wrong just gettiing the boat to Oriental for haul out next year.Anyway here is a pic of the crown splice I use for rope to chain: http://www.svsarah.com/Sailing/AtlanticCircle/Images/DSC01463.JPG
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I don't know of a name other than a chain to rope splice. I just followed the instructions on the samson web site. I just added the taper as suggested by a friend. I think my problem is I've been working on the boat and not using it. I am a little paranoid of everything being new and I am a rookie again.
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I have been frustrated by my chain twisting in the last 5-10 feet just prior to my rope splice, making it impossible to let out the remaining chain and then onto the rope. I don’t know for sure what causes this. My windlass is a Lofrans Tigres, and I’ve wondered if it’s the way the chain feeds onto the gypsy that causes the twist. Someone told me this is inherent when you have rope to chain, because it’s the rope that twists and that gets transmitted to the chain. That problem, along with castleing when I retrieve my anchor, gives us one big pain in the butt.
Any suggestions very very appreciated!!Joe,
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Joe,
I think you are right about the rope twisting the chain under load, although I never really noticed it when I used rope and chain. Then I was not anchoring in the Trades as you do most of the winter. I've heard from others with more anchoring experience than I of similar problems.
A swivel might help.John
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Quote:I have been frustrated by my chain twisting in the last 5-10 feet just prior to my rope splice, making it impossible to let out the remaining chain and then onto the rope. I don't know for sure what causes this. My windlass is a Lofrans Tigres, and I've wondered if it's the way the chain feeds onto the gypsy that causes the twist. Someone told me this is inherent when you have rope to chain, because it's the rope that twists and that gets transmitted to the chain. That problem, along with castleing when I retrieve my anchor, gives us one big pain in the butt.
Any suggestions very very appreciated!!
Joe,
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Thanks, I may try a swivel.
BTW..my home port is Beaufort NC. I’ve hauled out at Jarrett Bay and was quite satisfied with their service..FYI.Joe,
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I hate to think of the things that can go wrong just gettiing the boat to Oriental for haul out next year.
John,
The first thing you’ll notice when you cast off for that boat yard is that your engine will not move the boat. That’s because your propeller has disappeared into a mass of rock-like barnacles. They’ll spin, but the won’t propel. This news flash after a little Chinese fire drill here in Taylor’s Creek a couple of weeks ago when I cast off for a day sail after sitting still too long.
Tor
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Yep, that's what I expect. I did have a diver clean the bottom and replace the shaft zincz last week. He said he could find all the thru-hulls by the fuzz bloom on each. He said the prop was one big fuzz ball. Who'd thunk that kind of fouling in the Neuse River. I thought this was nearly fresh water. Guess not.
John
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Quote:> I hate to think of the things that can go wrong just gettiing the boat to Oriental for haul out next year.John,
The first thing you'll notice when you cast off for that boat yard is that your engine will not move the boat. That's because your propeller has disappeared into a mass of rock-like barnacles. They'll spin, but the won't propel. This news flash after a little Chinese fire drill here in Taylor's Creek a couple of weeks ago when I cast off for a day sail after sitting still too long.
Tor
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That's why I have my own compressor and dive gear. I'm surprised at the rate of growth that you mention, though.
Bob
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:51 PM, John Stevenson < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:Yep, that's what I expect. I did have a diver clean the bottom and replace the shaft zincz last week. He said he could find all the thru-hulls by the fuzz bloom on each. He said the prop was one big fuzz ball. Who'd thunk that kind of fouling in the Neuse River. I thought this was nearly fresh water. Guess not.John
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Silver Heels < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Quote:> I hate to think of the things that can go wrong just gettiing the boat to Oriental for haul out next year.John,
The first thing you'll notice when you cast off for that boat yard is that your engine will not move the boat. That's because your propeller has disappeared into a mass of rock-like barnacles. They'll spin, but the won't propel. This news flash after a little Chinese fire drill here in Taylor's Creek a couple of weeks ago when I cast off for a day sail after sitting still too long.
Tor
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Simple green is a decent grease cutter, also lattitudes and attitudes sells a enzyme powder that eats oil that works pretty well, probably the most “green” way
The I guess shop vac it out of the bilge?
On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Lee Yonkers < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Morning Glory’s engine compartment is filthy. When I bought the boat it was filthy and I have put off cleaning it primarily because I don’t know what kind of cleaner/solvent products I should use. I am tied to a dock and I don’t want to dump any bad stuff into the water. I bought a small pressure washer to clean off the bird droppings that might also come in handy cleaning the engine compartment.
Any suggestions that will make this job a little easier and environmentally friendly will be greatly appreciated.
Lee
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Is the rope gypsy on the oem simpson lowrance reversable to the left side? It looks like the whole shaft can be switched but I couldn’t figure it out
On Sep 28, 2009, at 6:08 PM, Aaron Lynch < ([email][/email])> wrote:
Simple green is a decent grease cutter, also lattitudes and attitudes sells a enzyme powder that eats oil that works pretty well, probably the most “green” way
The I guess shop vac it out of the bilge?
On Sep 28, 2009, at 1:43 AM, Lee Yonkers <()> wrote:
Morning Glory’s engine compartment is filthy. When I bought the boat it was filthy and I have put off cleaning it primarily because I don’t know what kind of cleaner/solvent products I should use. I am tied to a dock and I don’t want to dump any bad stuff into the water. I bought a small pressure washer to clean off the bird droppings that might also come in handy cleaning the engine compartment.
Any suggestions that will make this job a little easier and environmentally friendly will be greatly appreciated.
Lee
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Here’s the long splice I’ve been using. I actually carry mine out a little farther. Have not anchored with it all that much, still being in shallow waters, but it does get through the chain/rope gypsy by itself.
Tor
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