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    • #68760
      Anonymous

      Madsailor/Bob just mentioned…..in the last subject Sea Chest while answering my questions (thanks Bob)

      I plan on hauling my boat later this summer and removing at least 7 though
      hulls. 4 deck drains, 1 sink drain in the v-berth (where I also plan on
      removing the non used sink), moving the bilge pump discharges from the side
      of the boat to the transom and teeing the shower sump to the galley sink
      drain removing the through hull for that. If I could remove more I would.

      The deck drains will elbow out to the hull just below the cove stripe. I
      know there will be black marks. Better that than failed underwater valves.

      I totally understand reducing holes in the boat and I no doubt will as much as possible when I have the opportunity. Has anyone done anything different than what Bob is planning for his deck drains? I’d imagine you checked around Bob. I thought I might have read somewhere about attempting to cut scuppers on that decks, maybe I’m wrong. I have a vague memory of these extra thu-hulls while readying for delivery on my friends P424 so many years ago. Are these large (1 1/2″) gate valves. If they are, I sure would like to trash them too!

    • #79919
      Tor
      Participant

      Ken,

      I shared this summary of my War on Thru-Hulls with the group 6 years ago.
      Removing and sealing up half the thru-hulls was only half the battle. The
      other half was re-plumbing to share the remaining fittings among a multitude
      of users:

      Silver Heels’ Thru-Hull Assignment List, 12/2007
      ================================================

      Below-Waterline T-hull, Starboard Side #1


      Intake to sea chest, which feeds the following:
      – galley sink
      – watermaker
      – toilet
      – anchor/foredeck wash-down
      – bilge sump wash-down hose

      Below-Waterline T-hull, Starboard Side #2


      – engine raw water intake

      Below-Waterline T-hull, Port Side #1


      – galley sink drain

      Below-Waterline T-hull, Port Side #2


      – holding tank overboard pump discharge
      – toilet discharge

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Starboard Side #1


      – midship side deck scupper
      – electric bilge pump discharge
      – shower sump discharge
      – watermaker discharge
      – head sink drain

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Starboard Side #2


      – aft side deck scupper
      – starboard cockpit drain

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Port Side #1


      – midship side deck scupper

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Port Side #2


      – aft side deck scupper
      – port cockpit drain

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Transom #1


      – manual bilge pump discharge

      Above-Waterline T-hull, Transom #2


      – engine exhaust

      There is also a small hole in the transom, well above the waterline, for the
      propane locker drain.

      One issue I encountered on my boat was that many of the “above the
      waterline” thru-hulls were, in fact, at or slightly below the present,
      raised waterline. So where I needed to keep the fitting, I removed and
      re-installed it a little higher up, sealing the original hole. I opted to
      get rid of the forward cabin sink altogether, which used to drain through
      its own below-waterline seacock. The depth sounder transducer did not need
      to be thru-hull, and I scrapped the speed log wheel, which didn’t work
      anyway, and sealed the hole.

      Even with all this, I still have 10 holes in my hull, albeit only 4 of them
      below the waterline. There is room for improvement, for further thru-hull
      reductions, which I may get to in the future. For example, the manual bilge
      pump could share some other thru-hull exit.

      Tor


      Silverheels, P-424 #17
      http://www.silverheels.us


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    • #79922
      Anonymous

      Tor, I saw this list yesterday and had it mentally stored for future reference when I get poking about in detail on the new boat. I know the PO re-did a lot of the plumbing, I just haven’t had the opportunity to know in detail and to what extent he tried to minimize the amount of thru-hulls.
      I remember asking him as we were going through the boat, how many and it was kind of a blank stare with a tilted head and he said, “a lot”. We have the additional head forward also…for now! I’ll take it as it comes for now.

      As long as they can be gotten too reasonably well. Are there any of the originals that are really way out of the way and hard to access?

    • #79924
      madsailor
      Moderator

      The one real bear is the one for the head. I plan to cut the head floor for
      access.

      Bob

      I’m not being terse. This is from my mobile.
      On Jul 21, 2013 5:45 PM, “Page Two” wrote:

      Tor, I saw this list yesterday and had it mentally stored for future
      reference when I get poking about in detail on the new boat. I know the PO
      re-did a lot of the plumbing, I just haven’t had the opportunity to know in
      detail and to what extent he tried to minimize the amount of thru-hulls.
      I remember asking him as we were going through the boat, how many and it
      was kind of a blank stare with a tilted head and he said, “a lot”. We have
      the additional head forward also…for now! I’ll take it as it comes for
      now.

      As long as they can be gotten too reasonably well. Are there any of the
      originals that are really way out of the way and hard to access?


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    • #79928
      Tor
      Participant

      I don’t recall where my toilet discharge was originally, but it’s someplace
      else now.

      🙂

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    • #79930
      Tor
      Participant

      I don’t recall where my toilet discharge was originally, but it’s someplace
      else now.

      🙂

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    • #79931
      Tor
      Participant

      All the thru-hulls on my boat were and are accessible on the inside, albeit
      some more conveniently than others.

      Tor

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    • #79926
      Anonymous

      Thanks Bob, I guess it’s under the sink and down low or maybe in the locker stb of the fwd companionway?

      madsailor wrote:
      The one real bear is the one for the head. I plan to cut the head floor for
      access.

      Bob

    • #79929
      Anonymous

      Ha! Refits are like that huh? So much work, such a short time, you can’t expect to remember????

      @Tor wrote:

      I don’t recall where my toilet discharge was originally, but it’s someplace
      else now.

      🙂


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    • #79932
      madsailor
      Moderator

      Oh, no, nothing so simple. It’s directly under the center of the head’s
      floor. Impossible to reach from the hatch over the v-drive or the forward
      one. At least that’s where it is in my boat. Hull #8.

      Bob

      On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Page Two wrote:

      Thanks Bob, I guess it’s under the sink and down low or maybe in the
      locker stb of the fwd companionway?

      @madsailor wrote:

      The one real bear is the one for the head. I plan to
      cut the head floor for
      access.

      Bob


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