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October 26, 2009 at 10:05 pm #67753
kalinowski
ParticipantLady Leanne has never had a shower sump, just a hose to the bilge. I plan to correct this shortly and am looking at one of the sump boxes with multiple inlets. Always looking for ways to get more uses out of on board gear, I considered plumbing an intake hose (with a valve) from a higher position in the bilge to the shower sump and have it act as another bilge pump if things get hairy.
Any thoughts would be appreciated from our august group.
Dan Kalinowski
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October 27, 2009 at 1:25 am #74094
RichCarterParticipantDan
Shower sump boxes are a maintenance issue. Hair and other stuff gets stuck in there. I suggest running the drain hose right to the pump with a strainer to protect the pump. You’ll have to open and clean the pump every so often, but if you mount it conveniently its easy to clean. I put mine under the galley sink.I put a Y valve on the sump drain pump. This needs a self-priming pump. You can get them on ebay fairly reasonably. I put a bronze strainer on the end of the hose where it lays in the bilge. This keeps large stuff out and weighs down the end of the hose. This will do a good job draining the bilge.
Rich
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October 27, 2009 at 12:16 pm #74102
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Rich,
What capacity pump are you using for your shower sump? Mine is a 3.5 gpm (and I just bought a 4 gpm spare to take cruising). That’s adequate for the pump’s purpose, but it’s hard to imagine either doing much good as an emergency bilge pump with such modest capacities.
As for Dan’s question, I agree with your answer. My pump & strainer are mounted at the bottom of the locker underneath the head sink. The activation switch is on the upper aft corner of that locker’s facing (above the door & aft), easy to reach from inside the shower stall.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:29 pm #74103
RichCarterParticipantTor
I don’t know what the capacity of the pump is. This looks like my pump.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/bilge-pump-jabsco-diaphram-pump-8-gpm_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem45eec15fabQQitemZ300358393771QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGearIt was never intended to be used to prevent flooding though in an emergency every little bit helps. The nice thing about a diaphram pump is that you can mount them up high and have it drain the bilge almost down to dry. You really can’t do this with an impeller pump. Capacity isn’t an issue. I suppose a midget could get into the bilge and somehow mount an impeller pump down at the bottom of the sump. I’d never get my fat ass down there. I’d need the jaws-of-life to get me out if I ever fell down there. If I ever mounted one down there, I’d need some way to remove it during the winter. They don’t like ice, and whatever is left down there would surly freeze.
Rich
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October 27, 2009 at 2:43 pm #74106
kalinowski
ParticipantThanks for the input. I will proceed with the following: no box, pump plumbed directly to drain with an easy to clean filter, y-valve with hose to bilge (filter on end). I’ll use a diaphragm pump with a large capacity.
I’m also thinking of equipping the macerator with a y-valve as an additional option. My thinking is to mount both the shower and macerator pumps at a higher position in the bilge for when I reach the “pump like hell” phase with the manual.
I guess I just want to maximize bailing capacity without putting more holes in the boat. Maybe I’ve seen too many U-boat movies.
Dan Kalinowski
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October 27, 2009 at 5:53 pm #74108
RichCarterParticipantDan
The bilge is not a great place to mount pumps like this. They aren’t sealed units and the bilge is very damp. If you can find a place to mount it above the bilge it will require less care. Last year I relocated mine to the space under the galley sink next to the pressure water pump. I had to disassemble the motor and clean it with PB-Blaster. I then wire brushed the motor housing and painted the whole thing. This is far less expensive than replacing the unit.Rich
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October 28, 2009 at 8:53 pm #74114
kalinowski
ParticipantAbove ground it is! Thanks for the guidence Rich.
Dan Kalinowski
Lady Leanne II(#135)
Honolulu
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