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I have one of these high capacity pumps by Edson and am wondering if any of you 424’ers have mounted one permanent anywhere, or do you have it as a back-up mounted on plywood for quick deployment? My last ocean vessel a 1935 Henry Gielow Cutter needed this baby going full bore every half hour for 10 minutes from Block Island to Norfolk to keep the water below the floorboards while we were screaming along in NE winds 20 to 25 for the whole trip. We screwed it to the sole of the cockpit on a slab of plywood. Gawd! what a great memory that trip was!
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Hey Tor, I have the basics of two electric, one small, the other large, set up high as a back-up and the the cockpit manual. After reading this article…
http://www.oceannavigator.com/Ocean-Voyager-2013/Pumps-and-priorities/
…I must say I want this big boy on the boat, it won’t ever do me any good in my storage locker but might save my ass if I needed it. I was maybe thinking high up under the starboard floorboards just aft the mast if I could stuff it up there and still possibly leave the discharge hose “off”until needed and have the handle up through the floorboards pumping fore and aft! Sounds good! I haven’t tried to fit that monster though. It’s big!
Ken
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That giant Edson (I have one too) is intended to be used by a single
sailor while at the helm. Kind of in the mode of “scared sailor with a
bucket” I imagine. I have yet to, but want to, route the hoses so I
could easily hook them up if ever needed and work the pump in the cockpit.Pete
On 11/13/2013 9:51 PM, Page Two wrote:
Hey Tor, I have the basics of two electric, one small, the other large, set up high as a back-up and the the cockpit manual. After reading this article…
http://www.oceannavigator.com/Ocean-Voyager-2013/Pumps-and-priorities/
…I must say I want this big boy on the boat, it won’t ever do me any good in my storage locker but might save my ass if I needed it. I was maybe thinking high up under the starboard floorboards just aft the mast if I could stuff it up there and still possibly leave the discharge hose “off”until needed and have the handle up through the floorboards pumping fore and aft! Sounds good! I haven’t tried to fit that monster though. It’s big!
Ken
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In addition to the manual bilge pump near the helm, which I presume Pearson
put in, Silverheels also came to me with another big manual pump installed
in the cockpit (port forward corner), for emptying the holding tank
overboard. I rarely use the tank anymore – certainly not offshore – so I
bought a Y-valve to switch the intake from the holding tank to the bilge as
needed. Presto, a second manual bilge pump, fully installed.Tor
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I want to be Tor when I grow up… so many clever ideas.
Pete
On 11/14/2013 9:14 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:In addition to the manual bilge pump near the helm, which I presume Pearson
put in, Silverheels also came to me with another big manual pump installed
in the cockpit (port forward corner), for emptying the holding tank
overboard. I rarely use the tank anymore – certainly not offshore – so I
bought a Y-valve to switch the intake from the holding tank to the bilge as
needed. Presto, a second manual bilge pump, fully installed.Tor
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I keep a cheap home sump pump in one of my lockers along with a length of hose. These won’t hold up to repeated use in salt-water. It’s a good backup pump however. They can move a lot of water if you have a power source such as an inverter or onboard generator. They can move a lot of water. Since it’s portable, you can use it to pump out another boat if you can tie-up and lend a hand. I rinse mine out after using it in salt water. If the main engine is running, there is no risk of running the batteries down using the inverter.
Rich
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We have one of those big Edson 30 pumps, bronze, but it has never made it out of the basement. It has the intake on the bottom, not on the side. The original plan was to mount it on a plywood panel to replace the cabin sole opening just inboard of the galley and with an intake hose down into the bilge. Never really figured out where to store it.
Would certainly make it available to anyone smart enough to find it a stowing spot.
Cada, do you have the strainer with the big wing nut on top? If so, pm or email me, I’ve got one I’m taking out of service.
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I’d take that pump. I’ll figure out a place to store it. I have two
2000GPH electric pumps, one high, one low. I also have the cockpit pump
that I test annually, and when I installed the holding tank and macerator I
added a manual pump that can be used with the cabin entirely closed (it’s a
requirement for SOLAS anyway).But I feel you can never have enough pumps. Or Spam.
We all want to be Tor if we grow up.
Bob
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, quent wrote:
We have one of those big Edson 30 pumps, bronze, but it has never made it
out of the basement. It has the intake on the bottom, not on the side.
The original plan was to mount it on a plywood panel to replace the cabin
sole opening just inboard of the galley and with an intake hose down into
the bilge. Never really figured out where to store it.
Would certainly make it available to anyone smart enough to find it a
stowing spot.
Cada, do you have the strainer with the big wing nut on top? If so, pm or
email me, I’ve got one I’m taking out of service.
Quent
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Sure would like to have a bronze Edson, Bob, how much Spam can you handle? The alluminum one was a gift from a damn good friend who knew leaky old boats and before he would come help me move the boat south he bought me that Edson. You know….he brought kerosene running lights too and we sure as hell needed them after the first day losing all power. I don’t EVER want to grow up!!!!!
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You know Quent, I’m not sure I really sent an answer to you, but I’d love
the pump. I’ve actually hungered after that very one since my first boat.
Don’t ask me why.On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM, quent wrote:
We have one of those big Edson 30 pumps, bronze, but it has never made it
out of the basement. It has the intake on the bottom, not on the side.
The original plan was to mount it on a plywood panel to replace the cabin
sole opening just inboard of the galley and with an intake hose down into
the bilge. Never really figured out where to store it.
Would certainly make it available to anyone smart enough to find it a
stowing spot.
Cada, do you have the strainer with the big wing nut on top? If so, pm or
email me, I’ve got one I’m taking out of service.
Quent
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You guys must have bigger shower sump pumps than I. Mine is adequate for
draining the shower pan, but doesn’t move enough water to matter much to a
full bilge.Tor
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My shower sump is just below the V-drive and forward so if the shit is hitting the fan/ floodgates are open, I guess I’ll try to remember that little bit of extra pump to keep the floorboards from floating.
I haven’t brought my Edson aboard yet to see where it could possibly go, it’s just so fricken big. You know how big it is? It completely consumes an old Army duffle bag! I imagine I’ll just stuff it under the floorboards.Ken
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