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Can anyone who has installed the recently built mast pulpits that I believe Tor designed, give me a few dimensions of the fore deck?
1) Athwartship immediately forward of the new mast pulpits, hand rail to hand rail.
2) From that line…to the front of the cabin house.
3) The height of the forward house to the deck.
4) Overall, from the forward edge of the pulpit line to the aft edge of the anchor locker.
I’m considering a hard tender. Any and all info anyone has to share about storing a hard dingy on the fore deck would be appreciated. The dream…9′ Dyer sailing dhow. It’s about 4′ 7″ wide.
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Can’t help you on the mast pulpits, but several owners (in addition to Tor)
installed the same design so I’m sure you’ll get some responses on that
query.
I keep my dinghy on deck, but it is a 9′ AB RIB. I can keep that dinghy on
deck, fully inflated, and still get around it to get to the foredeck. It’s
deflated for passages which keeps it within the trunk cabin dimensions.
Since you are considering a hard dinghy of the same length it should fit
within the footprint of my deflated AB, and still allow the installation of
the mast pulpits. I elected not to go with the pulpits because I wanted to
be able to keep my AB fully inflated on the foredeck for coastal cruising,
and the aft end of the dinghy tubes extend on either side of the mast
taking up the space the pulpits need. My Monitor windvane precludes the
use of davits. Tor came up with a solution for both davits and a windvane,
so you should look at that as an alternative to on deck storage for coastal
cruising.
For my AB, I use a bridle and the spinnaker halyard for launching and
retrieving. That allows me to raise the dinghy out of the water against
the hull, but not on deck for overnight security. Not sure it that would
work well with a rigid dinghy as the inflatable tube acts as fender against
the hull.Regards,
John Stevenson
http://www.svsarah.comOn Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Page Two wrote:
Can anyone who has installed the recently built mast pulpits that I
believe Tor designed, give me a few dimensions of the fore deck?1) Athwartship immediately forward of the new mast pulpits, hand rail to
hand rail.2) From that line…to the front of the cabin house.
3) The height of the forward house to the deck.
4) Overall, from the forward edge of the pulpit line to the aft edge of
the anchor locker.I’m considering a hard tender. Any and all info anyone has to share about
storing a hard dingy on the fore deck would be appreciated. The dream…9′
Dyer sailing dhow. It’s about 4′ 7″ wide.
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Ken,
The “forward edge of the pulpit line” isn’t necessarily perpendicular to the
boat’s fore & aft plane. A right-handed person will normally stand a little
further forward on the port side of the main mast (where the staysail or
spinnaker halyard winch is) than on the starboard (where the main halyard
winch is). Go try it – stand on both sides of the mast exactly where you’d
want to be to crank the winch – and you’ll see what I mean. The pulpits are
best positioned for that variance, with the port rail several inches further
forward.So, for your purposes, I’d measure from the foremost foot of the port rail.
Tor
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I mounted mine exactly 1/2″ in front of the mast. It was the furthest aft
it could go before special plates had to be made for the feet. I use the
bases for the staysail sheet mounting points.Bob
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Silverheels wrote:
Quote:Ken,The “forward edge of the pulpit line” isn’t necessarily perpendicular to
the
boat’s fore & aft plane. A right-handed person will normally stand a little
further forward on the port side of the main mast (where the staysail or
spinnaker halyard winch is) than on the starboard (where the main halyard
winch is). Go try it – stand on both sides of the mast exactly where you’d
want to be to crank the winch – and you’ll see what I mean. The pulpits are
best positioned for that variance, with the port rail several inches
further
forward.So, for your purposes, I’d measure from the foremost foot of the port rail.
Tor
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At this point all I have is pictures from the original listing to go by. The pulpits “appear” to be perpendicular to the center-line and the forward base plates about 4″ to 6″ forward of the mast. Very difficult to judge from the pictures. It also looks like the forward base plate (stb side) is about 4″ behind the dorade box. How about a dimension from the back of the dorade box to the anchor locker?
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Ken,
The vast majority of mast pulpits are mounted symmetrically as you describe.
That’s because they look nice that way and most people don’t really think
much about it when they install them. I’m just pointing out another way of
approaching the placement if someone is putting them on originally.Tor
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Tor,
I completely understand that, and it doesn’t surprise me that the guy I’m buying the boat from took that rout, neat and evenly spaced. But all I really want to ask here, is would someone please pull out a tape measure and give me a ball park number that I can work with? Tor, your on your boat, right? I’ll absolutely hunt you down in the lower latitudes to repay you beers, rum or a dinner in a pizza joint if you go on deck and measure from the aft edge of the forward dorade box (hopefully its in the same place as a cutter rig?), to where you (possibly)remember your anchor locker used to end (I know you took it out).
Plus or minus a foot will help me better than where I’m sitting now in Tennessee. I could drive 8 hrs. to the boat, hoping I don’t have to. There is a 9′ Dyer sailing dingy that I will drive to get, if I can just reduce the risk of it not fitting well on the fore deck by a little bit. 9 foot, 10 foot, 11 foot?
And to anyone else, this boat is a sloop which I believe the mast is positioned the same as the cutter.Thanks,
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Thanks Quent, I had no idea they varied so much. For what it’s worth at this point, all the scaled drawings on board that I saw are for a 1980 cutter rig, which I was told was the same as the sloop rig for that year.
Thanks,
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Dude, I would have taken that measurement when you first requested it, but I
don’t have a forward dorade box, nor is there anything left to indicate
where the original anchor well was. So your reference points do not apply
here. Also, I know from experience on my previous boat that it matters how
the dink fits over the forward end of the coachhouse, which means knowing
where the athwartships seat is in the dinghy when it’s inverted up there,
what its beam is at several points, etc. The simple linear measurement you
want isn’t going to tell you what you really want to know, i.e., whether the
dinghy will fit there comfortably.All that said, it’s about 10′ from my foremost mast pulpit foot to where the
aft edge of original anchor well probably was. My guess is the 9′ dyer will
fit. Maybe.😉
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Thanks Tor, that’s worth a couple of beers, maybe 🙂 That’s why I was originally asking all those dimensions, help me get a better idea how the dingy thwarts might fit up there and all around generally being just a bit anal! I’ve asked Dyer for dimensions, no answer yet. I can always block it up too if needed.
Thanks,
Ken
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