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June 26, 2014 at 5:39 pm #68936
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Ken, or anyone else
I got the engine out. I have all the fittings off except the fuel pick up. it’s right in the middle of the tank. once I scrunch my self-down into any one of the lockers I can’t reach it. how did you get that one disconnected?
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June 26, 2014 at 6:11 pm #81158
Anonymous
Alan, I was able to reach in from the stb locker to remove all the
fittings. The actual pick-up obviously can’t be removed with the tank still
under the deck, as it’s too long into the tank. Just remove or cut the
fitting that is attached to it. You’ll be able to repair or replace it easy
enough while the tank is out.Ken
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wrote:Ken, or anyone else
I got the engine out. I have all the fittings off except the fuel pick up.
it’s right in the middle of the tank. once I scrunch my self-down into any
one of the lockers I can’t reach it. how did you get that one disconnected?
AlanSent from my iPhone
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June 26, 2014 at 6:14 pm #81159
Anonymous
oops…..port locker the one without the batteries in my case.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan, I was able to reach in from the stb locker to remove all the
fittings. The actual pick-up obviously can’t be removed with the tank still
under the deck, as it’s too long into the tank. Just remove or cut the
fitting that is attached to it. You’ll be able to repair or replace it easy
enough while the tank is out.Ken
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Alan via maillist <
> wrote:Ken, or anyone else
I got the engine out. I have all the fittings off except the fuel pick
up. it’s right in the middle of the tank. once I scrunch my self-down into
any one of the lockers I can’t reach it. how did you get that one
disconnected?
AlanSent from my iPhone
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June 26, 2014 at 8:35 pm #81160
Anonymous
Your batteries are in the port locker? By the way, I know how to get a new
pickup tube in the tank without removing the tank. Also, how to remove the
old pickup tube without removing the tank, just in case anyone’s interested.Bob
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Ken Page via maillist <
> wrote:oops…..port locker the one without the batteries in my case.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan, I was able to reach in from the stb locker to remove all the
fittings. The actual pick-up obviously can’t be removed with the tankstill
under the deck, as it’s too long into the tank. Just remove or cut the
fitting that is attached to it. You’ll be able to repair or replace iteasy
enough while the tank is out.
Ken
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Alan via maillist <
> wrote:Ken, or anyone else
I got the engine out. I have all the fittings off except the fuel pick
up. it’s right in the middle of the tank. once I scrunch my self-downinto
any one of the lockers I can’t reach it. how did you get that one
disconnected?
AlanSent from my iPhone
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June 26, 2014 at 11:50 pm #81161
Anonymous
I am all ears.
My batteries are in stb locker like most.
I thought you made a mistake. I’ll have to rent a small kid with long arms to get one last fitting.
I also have wire coming thru the mizzen step. Radar, wind gen etc. So I hoping to don’t have remove mizzen to full tank fwd.
aSent from my iPhone
On Jun 26, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Robert Fine via maillist wrote:
Your batteries are in the port locker? By the way, I know how to get a new
pickup tube in the tank without removing the tank. Also, how to remove the
old pickup tube without removing the tank, just in case anyone’s interested.Bob
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Ken Page via maillist <
> wrote:oops…..port locker the one without the batteries in my case.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ken Page wrote:
Alan, I was able to reach in from the stb locker to remove all the
fittings. The actual pick-up obviously can’t be removed with the tankstill
under the deck, as it’s too long into the tank. Just remove or cut the
fitting that is attached to it. You’ll be able to repair or replace iteasy
enough while the tank is out.
Ken
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Alan via maillist <
> wrote:Ken, or anyone else
I got the engine out. I have all the fittings off except the fuel pick
up. it’s right in the middle of the tank. once I scrunch my self-downinto
any one of the lockers I can’t reach it. how did you get that one
disconnected?
AlanSent from my iPhone
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June 27, 2014 at 12:31 am #81162
quent
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Can you get to and remove the support slats under the forward part of the tank? If you can, the tank might move forward and down allowing access from behind the engine.
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June 27, 2014 at 12:39 am #81163
Anonymous
Alan,
I don’t mean to butt in where I know less than everyone
else here (although that has never stopped me before),
but if you have wires coming in from the mizzen mast
that are in your way, would it not be easiest to cut
them, install connectors, and move on, rather than
un-stepping the mizzen mast? I realize this is not a
simple undertaking with the radar cable – perhaps the
manufacturer offers a quick-connector exactly for this
purpose(?) – but it will make life easier now, and also
the next time you (or some FO) un-steps the mizzen
mast.Or maybe you could just pull the wires back from their
instruments as far as the mizzen step, as you
apparently would have to anyway if you were to un-step
that mast, thus getting them out of the way so you can
move the fuel tank forward without un-stepping the
mizzen mast.Or maybe I’m not seeing the situation as it really is.
I do that a lot, too.Tor
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June 27, 2014 at 12:47 am #81164
Anonymous
Simple Answer would be, the connectors would then be in the way.
Up north here, the masts come every year. So taking the mizzen down would be no big problem. 30 minutes worth of work at most.Sent from my iPhone
Quote:On Jun 26, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Silverheels via maillist wrote:Alan,
I don’t mean to butt in where I know less than everyone
else here (although that has never stopped me before),
but if you have wires coming in from the mizzen mast
that are in your way, would it not be easiest to cut
them, install connectors, and move on, rather than
un-stepping the mizzen mast? I realize this is not a
simple undertaking with the radar cable – perhaps the
manufacturer offers a quick-connector exactly for this
purpose(?) – but it will make life easier now, and also
the next time you (or some FO) un-steps the mizzen
mast.Or maybe you could just pull the wires back from their
instruments as far as the mizzen step, as you
apparently would have to anyway if you were to un-step
that mast, thus getting them out of the way so you can
move the fuel tank forward without un-stepping the
mizzen mast.Or maybe I’m not seeing the situation as it really is.
I do that a lot, too.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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June 27, 2014 at 12:57 am #81165
Anonymous
You can unscrew the fitting on the top of the tank. Then lift and bend
until you’ve removed it.To put one in you must make a coil of about 4 inches in diameter. Spread
until the length of original tube and screw it in.That took me days to figure out.
Pardon the brevity. I’m typing this on my phone and I hate typing on my
phone.
On Jun 26, 2014 8:47 PM, “Alan via maillist”
wrote:Simple Answer would be, the connectors would then be in the way.
Up north here, the masts come every year. So taking the mizzen down would
be no big problem. 30 minutes worth of work at most.Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 26, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Silverheels via maillist <
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Quote:Alan,I don’t mean to butt in where I know less than everyone
else here (although that has never stopped me before),
but if you have wires coming in from the mizzen mast
that are in your way, would it not be easiest to cut
them, install connectors, and move on, rather than
un-stepping the mizzen mast? I realize this is not a
simple undertaking with the radar cable – perhaps the
manufacturer offers a quick-connector exactly for this
purpose(?) – but it will make life easier now, and also
the next time you (or some FO) un-steps the mizzen
mast.Or maybe you could just pull the wires back from their
instruments as far as the mizzen step, as you
apparently would have to anyway if you were to un-step
that mast, thus getting them out of the way so you can
move the fuel tank forward without un-stepping the
mizzen mast.Or maybe I’m not seeing the situation as it really is.
I do that a lot, too.Tor
Silverheels, P-424 #17
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June 27, 2014 at 1:19 am #81166
Anonymous
When I removed my tank recently I was able to get to all the fittings on top of the tank from the port cockpit locker, facing aft with my left arm doing all the work. Some of the tank straps were very difficult to reach from the stb locker but I found it a bit easier to reach them from the old fuel tank site glass in the sole of the cockpit.
After removing the forward frame work holding in the tank in one piece, I just sawzalled the screws holding the bottom part under the tank so the tank dropped down enough inches to easily clear the mizzen support beam.
I had trouble removing the 1 1/2″ fuel fill fitting, so I just sawzalled it off too. No sense wasting effort on things much more easily dealt with when the tank is out.
I can’t imagine any wires coming down from the mizzen could be that much in the way after knocking out the bottom of the tank support as I did. It was all very easily replaced while the tank was out, and you could redesign it to be fastened “after” the tank was put back in. Actually, I did just that by re-glassing/epoxy a bottom support to the hull after the tank was back in, then I screwed it in place.
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June 27, 2014 at 1:30 am #81167
Anonymous
Bob, you are so cool.
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June 27, 2014 at 1:30 am #81168
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Glad to hear it. Good luck with the project.
Tor
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June 27, 2014 at 1:25 pm #81169
Anonymous
Alan,
Try removing the fuel tank gauge viewing deck fitting. There should be enough room to get your arm in there. As I recall, you must remove the fuel gauge and everything else that sticks up from the tank to clear the mizzen support beam. You may need to remove some of the bottom boards from the crate too. I had access from the starboard locker since I had removed the battery box years ago. I never liked the weight on one side of the boat. It gave the boat a permanent list.Rich
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